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Bush uses failure during Katrina,overstated avian flu death tolls to push for end to Posse Comitatus
by Open-Publishing - Wednesday 5 October 200517 comments
publisher’s note: This is the worst US president ever, responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 innocents, a moral zero, incompetent idiot who is a threat to the world. We have to stop him now or God help us all.
Bush Would Use Military to Quarantine Avian Flu Pandemic
In the event of a bird flu pandemic that spreads among humans in the United States, President George W. Bush is considering using the military to impose a quarantine on the affected areas. Currently state governors command their state National Guard units, but the President said Congress should look at changing that arrangement.(Blackwater mercenaries are still on the ground in New Orleans- will corporate armies be imposing marshall law on US citizens for the avian flu?)
At a White House press conference today, Bush said that as a former Texas governor he understands that some governors do not like the possibility that they might have to give up command of their state’s National Guard, but "circumstances" may make it necessary "to vest the capacity of the President to move beyond that debate. And one such catastrophe, or one such challenge could be an avian flu outbreak," he said.
Health experts worry that H5N1, the highly pathenogenic form of avian flu that has caused 63 human deaths in four Asian countries and hundreds of millions of bird deaths across Asia since late 2003, might combine with a human flu virus and mutate into a new virus able to infect humans and spread from person to person.
President Bush said he too is concerned. "I am concerned about what an avian flu outbreak could mean for the United States and the world. I have thought through the scenarios of what an avian flu outbreak could mean," he said today.
"The policy decisions for a President in dealing with an avian flu outbreak are difficult," Bush said.
"One example: If we had an outbreak somewhere in the United States, do we not then quarantine that part of the country, and how do you then enforce a quarantine? It’s one thing to shut down airplanes; it’s another thing to prevent people from coming in to get exposed to the avian flu," he said.
"And who best to be able to effect a quarantine?" Bush asked. "One option is the use of a military that’s able to plan and move."
The President asked Congress to debate the issue of which level of government should control the National Guard in the wake of hurricanes Katrina and Rita, when National Guard personnel were brought in to assist with search, rescue and recovery - sometimes too slowly to keep problems from ballooning out of control.(Hurricane Katrina proved that we cannot count on Bush or the Government to provide help to the American people)
The 1878 Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from carrying out law enforcement duties inside the United States during peacetime, short of suppressing an insurrection.
Bush signaled that this law is up for review in a nationally televised address from New Orleans on September 15 in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. He said "a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority and a broader role for the armed forces."(why is a flu a challenge that requires us to use the military on our own people?-someone stop them!)
White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan later said revision or repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act is an issue that "needs to be looked at" by Congress and the administration, saying that officials are in the "early planning of discussing it."
Again today, Bush urged Congress to debate the issue. "I think it’s an important debate for Congress to have. I noticed the other day, evidently, some governors didn’t like it. I understand that. I was the commander-in-chief of the National Guard, and proudly so, and, frankly, I didn’t want the President telling me how to be the commander-in-chief of the Texas Guard."
"But Congress needs to take a look at circumstances that may need to vest the capacity of the President to move beyond that debate. And one such catastrophe, or one such challenge could be an avian flu outbreak."
Addressing the opening of the United Nations General Assembly September 14, President Bush announced a new International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza that will bring together key nations and international organizations to improve global readiness on this growing threat.
Today Bush told reporters that in addition to his public remarks about preparing for a flu pandemic, he also spoke to other national leaders gathered at UN Headquarters in New York.
"I spoke about it privately to as many leaders as I could find," Bush said, "about the need for there to be awareness, one, of the issue; and, two, reporting, rapid reporting to WHO, so that we can deal with a potential pandemic."
"The reporting needs to be not only on the birds that have fallen ill, but also on tracing the capacity of the virus to go from bird to person, to person. That’s when it gets dangerous, when it goes bird-person-person," he said. "And we need to know on a real-time basis as quickly as possible, the facts, so that the scientific community, the world scientific community can analyze the facts and begin to deal with it."
The President said development of a vaccine so "not only would first responders be able to be vaccinated, but as many Americans as possible, and people around the world" would be helpful.
Health experts say development of a vaccine is impossible until the new virus appears because the virus itself is used in making the vaccine to fight it.
Bush said there is a spray that may be able to help arrest the spread of the disease, but it is "in relatively limited supply." He called on manufacturers around the world to boost supplies of the spray.
"I’m not predicting an outbreak," Bush said, "I’m just suggesting to you that we better be thinking about it. And we are. And we’re more than thinking about it; we’re trying to put plans in place."
The newly named United Nations coordinator of global responses to a pandemic of avian flu said Friday a global outbreak could kill between five million and 150 million people. Dr. David Nabarro told the BBC that he gave the higher figure because, "I want to be sure that when this next flu pandemic does come along, that we are prepared for the worst as well as for the mildest."
The World Health Organization backed away from the higher figure. Dick Thompson told a news conference in Geneva that the WHO’s official estimate of the number of people who could die was between two million and 7.4 million. WASHINGTON, DC (ENS)
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5 October 2005, 10:58
"I’m not predicting an outbreak" Bush said.
Oh god.
How many microbiologists are on the google murdered list?
Oh.
God.
5 October 2005, 11:01
This sounds like another attempt to grab even more unearned power. In fact, it could even become possible that avian flu could be "found" in various parts of the USA, in order to send in the troops. Just another day in the NPAC States of America.
5 October 2005, 12:29
Wow, I’m surprised that bush would remind everyone about his failure like this. You know why?
Amazing that as Americans suffered, waiting for the presiDUHnce "leadership", his newly created agency(DHS) with front man chertoff was at a conference discussing avian bird flu.
So here we have again, misdirection of focus where it is needed. This is leadership ladies and gentleman.
So as we prepare ourselves for "avian flu", what new catastrophe will occur because john wayne bush has led us off another cliff of unimportance?
"well, we were so busy with avian flu, we couldn’t of IMAGINED that.....oh never mind, support our troops and god bless america...BOO!"(just please stop talking about katrina)
As New Orleans flooded, Chertoff discussed avian flu in Atlanta
WASHINGTON - (KRT) - Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, the U.S. official with the power to order a massive federal response to Hurricane Katrina, flew to Atlanta for a previously scheduled briefing on avian flu on the morning after the storm swept ashore.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/merc...
But what’s really funny about all this...they have a "VACCINE" you can purchase for $49.95 + tax that will keep you "safe"...gotta love big pharma.(just make sure it doesn’t have mercury in it, like that other "flu shot")
’Bird Flu’, SARS - Biowarfare or a Pandemic of Propaganda?
http://tinyurl.com/53xnk
constant, imminent, external threat
rinse - wash - repeat
Please continue shopping citizens.
"terrorism is the best political weapon, for nothing drives people harder then the fear of sudden death." Adolph Hitler
Where Fear Can’t Take Us
Today, young people are caught in a veritable grid of exterminatory possibilities, both real and fantastical — and grim enough that nuclear weapons have to line up in a jostling queue of possibilities just to get their fifteen seconds of apocalyptic infamy. In the meantime, just beyond our sight, the Bush administration has been hard at work ramping up our nuclear forces. Plans are afoot to wield nuclear weapons "as just another item in the warfighting toolbox" for future "preventive" wars against powers our government merely thinks might be considering using chemical or biological weaponry against U.S. forces or our allies. (Check out the Greenpeace website for the latest Pentagon document on this. "Executing a nuclear option, or even a portion of an option," it reads, "should send a clear signal of United States’ resolve. Hence, options must be selected very carefully and deliberately so that the attack can help ensure the adversary recognizes the ‘signal’ and should therefore not assume the United States has escalated to general nuclear war, although that perception cannot be guaranteed.") At the same time, Bush and his top officials managed to focus American fears — well banked from all those decades of insecurity — on a significant but non-exterminatory threat, that of terrorism, which made a mobilization for war possible. After this New York, there could be an Afghanistan, an Iraq, an...
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=8665
"You know I could run for governor but I’m basically a media creation. I’ve never done anything. I’ve worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But that’s not the kind of profile you have to have to get elected to public office." - George W. Bush 1989
5 October 2005, 16:31
Only a few hunderd were kill in the New Orlean flood, the greatest ever in USA history.
France had a heat wave and 3,000 were killed.
The USA move a million or more persons safely to other parts of the nation faster than any nation in the world.
Americans are number 1 and will remain on top for a long while.
6 October 2005, 00:00
Cuba moved almost 2 million in their last category 5 storm including all livestock.
There was not a single loss of life
They lost 20,000 homes and the US offered $50,000.
Do you recall the number of doctors and medicine they offered New Orleans.
As to being number one I could suggest quite a few unfriendly endeavours where your position as number 1 has few equals in contemporary history, but your fellow citizens are figuring that out without the help of a foreigner.
cheers, jt.
6 October 2005, 03:47
With all that is going on in the US (Iraq, Katrina, Rita, Social Security, Plamegate,Delay,price of gas etc. etc.) How does this question get asked at the first press conference in 4 months and get the most ink when it’s only a what if, while the other subjects are actually being committed?
6 October 2005, 06:09
GWB’s regime is exemplary in promoting anxiety, fear and all manner of potential catastrophes.
These hypothetical scenarios take flight on a public conditioned by panic and paranoia since 911.
The media are simply serving in the role of stenographers for the White House and the Pentagon.
When the reality in Iraq and in domestic affairs is so over whelming, dealing with the unknown is easier that confronting reality. One would think the shelf life of this strategy has passed its expiry date, but as long as the media lap dogs behave, and the public are distracted, this sleep walking reality will persist.
For those who are awake its a daily nightmare, that’s how and why that opening questioned came about I think.
cheers, jt.
6 October 2005, 06:34
HE IS NOT INCOMPETENT PEOPLE! IT IS BY DESIGN! HE/THEY PURPOSEDLY LET THOSE PEOPLE DIE IN GULF TO USE AS EXCUSE TO TELL CONGRESS HE NEEDS MORE POWERS TO CALL OUT GUARD ON OUR OWN PEOPLE! WAKE THE HELL UP AMERICA AND WORLD! WE HAVE ANOTHER HITLER ON OUR HANDS ONLY CRAFTIER! WAKE THE HELL UP WORLD! PLEASE, HELP US AMERICAN’S OUT! 80% OF OUR PRESS IS CORPORATE OWNED AS IS 80% OF BOTH PARTIES! WE ARE LIVING IN A CORPORATE POLICE FASCIST STATE NOW! PLEASE WORLD, HELP US! INCLUDING HEAD OF U.N. NOW THEY ARE SPREADING THEIR EVIL WAYS TO EUROPE, THE INSANE PNAC PEOPLE ARE! STOP THEM AND NOW! WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE! BUSH/COHORTS LET OUR OWN PEOPLE DIE IN GULF TO FURTHER THEIR DAMN SICK,EVIL AGENDA’S OF BEING ABLE TO CALL OUT GUARD AGAINST OUR OWN PEOPLE! HE IS BOUND AND DETERMINED TO HAVE CONGRESS GIVE HIM TOTAL CONTROL OF GUARD! NOW HE SAYS MILITARY SHOULD BE CALLED OUT IN CASE OF BIRD FLU AND THAT HE NEEDS POWER TO CALL THEM OUT! ANYONE SEE A DAMN PATTERN HERE, OF HIM BADLY WANTING TO BE ABLE TO CALL OUT GUARD ON OWN CITIZENS? WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA AND WORLD! HITLER II IS IN WHITE HOUSE AND COHORTS NEED TO BE IMPEACHED, INDICTED AND IMPRISONED AND NOW, BEFORE THEY MURDER MORE AT HOME OR ABROAD! GET A CLUE! HE PURPOSEDLY MURDERED OUR OWN CITIZENS TO FURTHER HIS/THEIR SICK,EVIL AGENDA AND TO BE ABLE TO ASK CONGRESS FOR POWER TO CALL OUT GUARD ON OWN CITIZENS! HE IS HITLER II ONLY CRAFTIER! ALL OF THE THINGS HE/THEY DO IS BY DESIGN PEOPLE! NOT INCOMPETENCE! BUT BY DESIGN! TO FURTHER THEIR SICK,EVIL AGENDA’S! AND I THINK HIS ACTING STUPID IS AN ACT TOO FOR SYMPATHY AND SO NOONE TAKES HIM SERIOUS WHEN HE SAYS DANGEROUS STUFF! PLEASE, STOP FASCISM IN AMERICA AND WORLD! NOW! IT’S NOT INCOMPETENCE PEOPLE! TOO MUCH STUFF WENT ON ON PURPOSE! THEY PURPOSEDLY MURDERED MORE AMERICAN’S FOR THEIR SICK GODDAMN EVIL PNAC AGENDA’S! AND THEY WILL DO IT IN YOUR COUNTRIES TOO, GIVEN THE CHANCE! THEY ARE PURE EVIL! FEMA EVEN CUT PHONE LINES OF PEOPLE! THAT WAS INTENTIONAL! NOT INCOMPETENCE! ALL OF IT WAS! FOR HIM TO SAY SEE, I need more power! Which the ASSHOLE has too much power NOW! GET A CLUE, AMERICA, IT WAS ON PURPOSE LIKE EVERYTHING HE/THEY DO IS! ON PURPOSE! KILLING MORE OF OUR OWN PEOPLE TO FURTHER THEIR SICK,EVIL AGENDA! JUST LIKE HE/THEY DID WHEN THEY LIED TO TAKE US TO WARS!
6 October 2005, 23:34
Do you know that you share JFK’s fathers woeful and failed prediction (wish).
As foreign ambassador to the UK he said the Brits couldn’t handle Germany and their fall was imminent.
That’s when there was a real war going on...remember....not all this hide and seek about bad guys and evil doers and and..
The Battle of Britain was rather impressed, while the USA was waiting for Pearl Harbour.
How will GWB be able to run in 2008, did you miss that civics class or is this just some more wishful thinking.? (doesn’t being appointed by the supremes count as one election term?)
I rather agree French wines are overpriced and not that impressive. For over two years now they have been removing there lower quality vines so perhaps better bubbly will be on the way soon.
With french fries back in vogue I take this as a sign the French are not about to collapse as a nation.
cheers, jt
7 October 2005, 02:18
I completely agree. The Bushman is not incompetent. He and his accomplices are devious and very, very EVIL!!! And Democrats remain silent for the most part, incredulous and naive. Besides John Conyers (and Cindy Sheehan), where are the leaders we need to speak the truth to the world?
Billboards should be posted all over the country that warn people about the propaganda in the media (e.g, the LIES of Bill O’Reilly on FOX). They should direct people to sources of truth. Many good people still rely on the MSM for their information. Many a good person is being fooled—and should be convinced to do their homework.
7 October 2005, 05:48
Democrats remain silent because they are just as guilty as the republicans. Drop the left right trap. Hegelian concept of control give the people the illusion of choice when in reality it is one party to the elite. left wing magazines The Nation, The New Republic financed with Whitney money. And the right wing magazines The National Review financed with Buckley money. Both these families are elites that want to continue the Hegelian Trap to control the american people with this idiotic debate of republicans vs. democrats. These Elite families really run this country.
1.Barring
2.Hambros
3.Lazard
4.Erlancer
5.Mallet
6. Warburg
7. Schroder
8. Selnger
9. Fould
10. Speyers
11. Mirabald
12. Morgan
13.Rothschild
14. Dupont
15. Rockafeller
16. Buckley
17. Whitney
18. Bush
7 October 2005, 06:10
While I generally agree with your argument, I think that the list you provided is far from comprehensive. The players here are multinational. The Forbes 400 would be a better place to start looking. Even then, I suspect there are others who can maintain a very low profile by virtue of their wealth.
10 June 2006, 00:28
YOU WERE RIGHT, NOT ONLY THEY CONTROL THIS COUNTRY, THEY’’VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY WAR. UNFORTUNATELY THE POPULATION IS JUST TOO BUSY IN MONEY & MATERIALISTIC PURSUIT NOT KNOWING THESE PEOPLE’S PLAN TO EXTERMINATE THE WORLD POPULATION. BY THE TIME THE POPULATION REALIZE IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR THEM SINCE THEY WON’T LISTEN. IT’S JUST TOO BAD & THESE PEOPLE KNEW IT. THAT’S WHY THEY’RE BEEN CALLED "ELITE".
1. ONE WHO MAKES THINGS HAPPEN.
2. ONE WHO WATCHES THINGS HAPPEN.
3. ONE WHO DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HAPPEN.
WHICH ONE ARE YOU????
8 October 2005, 03:53
This whole "avian flu" hysteria smacks of an excuse for W. to assume powers that might make the patriot act seem tame by comparison! Do away with the Posse Comitatus Act on account of 63 reported deaths? NO THANKS! I don’t care to give up MY remaining endangered freedoms in order to submit to the dubious authority of Dubya and his string-pullers. Unlike a large percentage of the American Sheeple, I remain unconvinced of the urgent need to bend over and take my shot from the Feds. Plus I already have had more than enough mercury injected into my metabolism over the years, "courtesy" of the medical industry, as these vaccines are formulated with thimerosol.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commen...
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sep...
People over the age of 40 should have learned a lesson from the millions of wary Americans who wisely declined to be innoculated during the Federal Government’s Swine Flu Vaccine program, circa 1975-1976. Not to mention the Hepatitis B vaccine program given to the New York City and San Francisco Homosexual communities in 1978, just before the first "officially reported" cases of HIV/AIDS in 1980-1981. Guess where the first AIDS cases were reported? In those very same aforementioned cities!
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/aids.htm
8 October 2005, 23:49
Any chance that the ressurection of the Spanish flu virus is a coincidence?
10 October 2005, 05:54
Dubya here. Oh yes we will spread a pandemic in this country. That’s why we killed off all those viral scentist. We will cause a pandemic and the American people will beg us to install martial law. It’s called problem solution. man, you people are ignorant. hahahhahahahahhaahhahahahahhahhahahahahahhahahahah
10 October 2005, 05:56
now i’m gonna blow some more cocain.