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The onslaught in Fallujah : shooting at a fly that has landed on a horse’s head

by Open-Publishing - Monday 15 November 2004
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Edito Wars and conflicts International


“If your attack is going exceptionally well, it is probably an ambush.” Old
military maxim

by Maarten Vanheuverswyn

On the face of it, the siege of Fallujah seems to be going relatively well for
the US troops. Most of the city has been captured and according to the mass media “Operation
Phantom Fury” will be finished in a couple of days. Though yesterday the US army
suffered some losses, these were nothing compared to the figure of 600 insurgents
killed, probably more. It is indeed likely that the occupation forces will win
the battle for Fallujah. However, things are not so simple. The war in Iraq was
also supposed to be over, whereas it clearly is not. The same applies to Fallujah,
where an official victory may well turn out to be a Pyrrhic one.

American military planners expected to face thousands of Iraqi resistance fighters in the streets of Fallujah, not the hundreds they were fighting during this week’s street fights. Why is this? The explanation usually given was that the insurgents defending Fallujah are simply not as well organised as originally thought. However, since the guerrillas have had seven months to prepare for the assault, this is unlikely. The more plausible reason is that the insurgents are simply fighting the US forces the best way they can, that is, with small-scale guerrilla-type operations. It would have been utter madness for the resistance to mass into static formations, which would be inviting disaster for a group of outnumbered and outgunned guerrilla fighters. The weapons arsenal of the biggest army in the world can devastate large defensive positions and formations. That is why small-scale hit-and-run operations are a better fighting method, something we saw in the last days - a group of a dozen insurgents launching strikes against a military unit, offering token resistance and quickly retreating through routes and tunnels to fight at another location and another time.

The Associated Press quoted Marine Capt. John Griffin saying, “There has always been pockets of resistance in this type of fighting, just like there was in World War II we would claim an island is secure and fight them for months after that. Claiming the city is secure doesn’t actually mean that all the resistance is gone, it just means that we have secured the area and have control.” US imperialism, however, still does not have control over the city. They could have this “control” officially next week, but what would it mean? In all likelihood the resistance is simply waiting to strike hard. It also looks more and more likely that half of the insurgents had already fled Fallujah before the assault. They are simply repositioning themselves to fight elsewhere.

Ironically, the more the Americans squeeze Fallujah, the more violence explodes elsewhere. There have been reports of serious clashes in the northern city of Mosul, where resistance members attacked and overwhelmed several police stations and battled US and Iraqi troops around bridges across the Tigris River. It has been reported that a group in the North tried to storm an office of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, one of the two major Kurdish parties, and fought with Kurdish guards. Mosul’s television channel went off air for an hour and the US military admitted the Iraqi police were unable to handle the crisis.

The upsurge in violence across the country has led US officials to state that Al Zarqawi, now Public Enemy No. 1, has left Fallujah, thereby skilfully avoiding the question whether he has actually been there at all. It does not require much imagination what the next steps will be. That scoundrel Al Zarqawi will suddenly have been noticed in other cities like Samarra and will prepare the way for another devastating round of bombing in whatever city their next target is. Indeed, Gen. Myers, speaking on NBC stated, “If anybody thinks that Fallujah is going to be the end of the insurgency in Iraq, that was never the objective, never our intention, and even never our hope.’’
Media complicity conceals atrocities

Reports about what is going on in Fallujah are contradictory. At this moment there is little or no independent press inside the city to report on the situation. Instead, some reporters are “embedded” with (in bed with) the US Marines and are only allowed to write under the scrutiny of US officials. Woe betide the one who dares to call this censorship! They pretend to bring democracy - a shameless lie - and do not even allow any independent press reporting on their actions.

“The US forces are there to prepare the ground for democratic elections,” claim the mass media. “Therefore we have to get rid of these terrorists so that Iraq can make the move to democracy.” This nonsense passes for “objective information”. Very little attention is paid to the human catastrophe inflicted upon the city and the real nature of the whole operation. Nevertheless, if one looks carefully at some articles written on Fallujah, it is possible to get an idea of what is really going on. Fadhil Badrani, a journalist in Fallujah reporting for the BBC World Service reported:

“For people in the city, life has become even more extreme. Food is in short supply and the shops are all closed ... Electricity is cut off because of damage to the main power station from the bombardment. The water supply has been cut off too. The roads are now heavily cratered. People, particularly children and women, tend to stay at home, fearing being mistaken for a military target.

“Doctors say medical supplies at the main hospital, which has been in American hands since Sunday, are low. Most of the city’s population has left, some for other parts of Iraq, others, I hear have left the country altogether for neighbouring Arab counties.”

Civilians who are still in their city, now besieged by a foreign army, are out of luck. They run a high risk being bombed or shot. As a side note, even dogs are not better off, as they appear to be shot to prevent them from being rigged with explosives. Let us ask the question: What offence have the inhabitants of Fallujah committed? They did not threaten the world with weapons of mass destruction nor did they bring down the WTC towers. It seems that their only crime is resistance to the occupation by a foreign army.

Interestingly, in one of the few interesting articles in The Washington Post, one of the American newspapers openly backing the war in Iraq, we read that in Fallujah some artillery guns fired white phosphorous rounds that create a screen of fire that cannot be extinguished with water. Insurgents reported being attacked with a substance that melted their skin, a reaction consistent with white phosphorous burns. The Washington Post quoted Kamal Hadeethi, a physician at a regional hospital: “The corpses of the mujahedeen which we received were burned, and some corpses were melted.” The Post went on: “The Jolan and Askali neighborhoods seemed particularly hard hit, with more than half of the houses destroyed. Dead bodies were scattered on the streets and narrow alleys of Jolan, one of Fallujah’s oldest neighborhoods. Blood and flesh were splattered on the walls of some of the houses, witnesses said, and the streets were full of holes.” If this kind of report manages to slip into the billion-dollar press, one can imagine what kind of butchery is really going on in Fallujah.
Resistance an unstoppable hydra

In spite of rocket-propelled grenades and small-arms fire forcing two US helicopters to make “hard landings” and some twenty men down, the push through Fallujah has been going relatively well for US imperialism. But from their point of view, they should not fool themselves. This is not the endgame. After they have destroyed Fallujah “in order to save it” (!), the US forces will have to leave a fraction of its troops behind to “secure” the city. At that point, the resistance could come out of hiding and attack the diminished force and retake the city. This is exactly what happened in Samara.

The occupation forces face the problem that there is not one single operational centre. They are confronted with an enemy with as many heads as a hydra. No sooner have they cut off one head than another two or three grow in its place. Now Fallujah has been decapitated, but so-called pockets of resistance (which are in fact a mass movement) pop up at other places. In Baqubah, Samara, Kirkuk, Mosul and Baghdad, attacks using car bombs, improvised explosive devices and rocket-propelled grenades are on the increase, with Iraqi police as favoured targets. There are other cities such as Ramadi that have taken in insurgents, thus spreading the guerrilla forces around the country.

Fortunately for them, US forces can count on the good services of the new Iraqi National Guard. Fallujah was supposed to be the testing ground of the new Iraqi Army. Let Scott Ritter, former UN weapons inspector in Iraq, speak for himself:

“The reality is there is no Iraqi Army. Of the tens of thousands recruited into its ranks, there is today only one effective unit, the 36th Battalion.

“This unit has fought side by side with the Americans in Falluja, Najaf, and Samara. By all accounts, it has performed well. But this unit can only prevail when it operates alongside overwhelming American military support. Left to fend for itself, it would be slaughtered by the resistance fighters. Worse, this unit which stands as a symbol of the ideal for the new Iraqi Army is actually the antithesis of what the new Iraqi Army should be.

“While the Bush administration has suppressed the formation of militia units organized along ethnic and religious lines, the 36th Battalion should be recognized for what it really is - a Kurdish militia, retained by the US military because the rest of the Iraqi Army is unwilling or unable to carry the fight to the Iraqi resistance fighters.” (Aljazeera.net, November 11, 2004)

Members of the Iraqi police and army are rightfully seen as collaborators with the occupiers. They are seen as traitors by the majority of the population. That explains why in Fallujah no Iraqi army or national guard unit fought. Stratfor reported that Iraqi National Guard units have refused to attack guerrilla positions; their commanders had been unable to make soldiers move forward and some officers were siding with the troops. “Only the Iraqi army’s special forces unit, which is mostly Kurdish, helped search for hidden guerrillas behind U.S. Marine lines outside the city. Hundreds of Iraqi soldiers have deserted bases around Al Fallujah, the sources added.”
Free elections?

George W. Bush is supposed to have won the elections because of his ‘moral values’. In Iraq we see how much these moral values are worth. Fallujah is only one example of the barbarity of the US occupation forces. Their attempts to sell this bloody mess as “bringing democracy” are a very sick joke. Likewise, the claims about having “free elections” in January reek of the most rotten brand of cynicism.

Last year, after the fall of Baghdad, Bush and Blair rejected the call for free and fair elections. Instead the American troops were simply standing by when the country was looted. The people were “not ready” for elections. Let us remember that it was Donald Rumsfeld who literally said that “Freedom is untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things”. In reality the imperialist forces in the country are frightened of the Iraqi people voting for anti-occupation leaders. They will only accept sham elections supervised by the occupation forces, at most allowing an Allawi-style puppet regime to win the elections.

Unless Iraq is turned into an openly military dictatorship, Allawi’s interim government won’t last for too long. Already there are divisions in the government. Iraqi interim President Ghazi al-Yawar criticised the plan to attack Fallujah. “I completely disagree with those who see a need to decide the [Fallujah] matter through military action,” Yawar told Reuters. “The coalition’s handling of this crisis is wrong. It’s like someone who fired bullets at his horse’s head just because a fly landed on it; the horse died and the fly went away.”

The question of free elections is almost never linked with the question of the army and the police. However, state power in the last analysis is armed bodies of men, and that is why the United States will never give up on these essential positions. In theory the army and police are controlled by the Iraqi government, but in practice the coalition forces decide what they do. Apart from that, how can a country be free anyway as long as more than 100,000 foreign troops are stationed on its soil?
Action and reaction

The word freedom as applied to present day Iraq leaves a bad taste in the mouth. More than 100,000 Iraqis have been killed since the invasion, while Fallujah and other cities are in a shambles. Every voice of opposition to the occupation is brutally crushed. Whereas right after the official ending of the war many Iraqis were prepared to give the Americans some credit, these illusions have now been shattered by their bitter experience with the monstrous crimes inflicted upon them.

The present onslaught on Fallujah will have solved nothing. On the contrary, it will have the opposite effect of what the ruling clique in Washington intended. Far from having weakened the resistance, they will only have made themselves more unpopular with the Iraqi population. More and more Iraqis will cease to stand aside to see their relatives being slaughtered in this dirty war. What else can they do?

The truth is that the United States cannot win this war. The US Empire is overstretching itself to a great extent. The economic motives for entering Iraq in the first place are not paying off. Instead they see themselves more and more trapped in a Catch 22. They cannot simply leave Iraq because that would go against their economic and strategic interests. On the other hand, the more they crush the resistance by turning Iraqi cities to dust, the bigger the resistance grows. These elemental truths won’t remain hidden forever to the American public. There is a limit on the extent rulers can fool the people. And once these facts grip the consciousness of ordinary working people in America and elsewhere, things will move at a fast pace.

http://www.marxist.com/MiddleEast/iraq_fallujah_12nov04.htm

Forum posts

  • An excellent article. I could not agree more. I’ve been in Iraq since February, and see the constant autrocities commited by occupation troops. Every person slaughtered, is "sacrificed" for an American interests. The bottom line is "OIL". The country that controls energy, controls everything. The US is another "Roman Empire" on the verge of total destruction, all of which are based on deceit and lies.

    • I feel sorry for America when the Iraqi people want that butcher Saddam back in power because you Americans have proven to be worse. Very Very sad day for America indeed.

    • The Bush/Cheney war in Iraq is costing 5.8 billion dollars a month and the people who are banking this money have not even fired a shot. Oh what a wonderfull war.

    • When the discovery of oil should of brought wealth and happiness to Iraq it as brought nothing but death and misery. Please god if you exist please help the Iraqi people.

  • The traditional war is over in that saddam hussein has been captured and his government toppled. This is a different situation. Iran has been encouraging insurgents within and from surrounding countries to prevent the interim government from succeeding. The poor iraqis have been caught in the middle. Congratulations to the troops for taking over fallujah. It’s about time. Next time they think about blowing up americans and stringing their carcass over a bridge, they’ll reconsider.

    • Congratulations to our American troops...

      Americans are tired of all other countrys staying on the side line and then crying foul.

      The rest of the world better take note. WE are tired of being pushed around.

      Just wait till some tragedy happens to your country and you all start crying for the USA to come in and bail your ass out.

    • No WMDs ! No link to Al Queda! No Saddam! But we’re destroying Iraqi people. We are definitely liberating them.... from human existence. Insurgents in their own country? What utter crap! CIA asset Allawi, a lawful leader? Aw gimme a break! Sorry I do not tow the Bush/corporate storyline. " What doth it profit a man to gain the whole world but suffer the loss of his own soul?" UNLESS we are not dealing with ’man’ but monsters!

    • Never happen Jack! The only adventures the US gets itself into are those to protect the wealth and monopolies of its plutocracy. BTW, who’s this we? I’m American and your comments don’t represent me or many of my countrymen.
      Your post is representative of the intellectual dwarfs who seek to portray this barbarity in Iraq as some moral excercise. Is that because you feel free by being allowed a few crumbs from the table of these vipers?

    • actually "some tragedy" has already happened to another country (Spain) and they didn’t start crying for the USA to bail them out. Instead the people of Spain did the reasonable thing and opted out of participating in an illegal and radically dangerous "war"....By the way, this is not a sports contest. People are dying and you support this because you feel "pushed around"??? Oy vey!

    • If America keeps "freeing" countries all over the World by Killing them, think of all
      the flowers our victorious armies will get from the lucky survivor’s of this insane if
      you can call it, Logic?????? Murder is Murder !

    • Who are you congratulator of American attrocities?

      Let me guess? Male, having somebody of his family attached to this Nazi troops...

      Nature already does revenge to your country: Florida is just one example.

      More will come. And guess what, the rest of the world will keep the eyes closed
      if that happens.

    • Dear me... the American people are a genuinely kind and generous people, I know this for a fact because I’ve been around the place a couple of times... but in my experience they’re not generally very well informed or even aware of world affairs beyond their borders - that would be consistent with various surveys that have placed the American education system well down the scale compared to other Western countries...

      Let’s face a couple of relatively widely accepted but politically unpalatable matters:

      1. The USA is run by Zionists. Fully 60% of the staff in George Dubya Bush’s administration are confirmed Zionists. So Israel - that belligerent Nazi state in the Middle East - runs the USA by proxy. And I don’t use the term "Nazi" lightly. The State of Israel has developed the habit of crying "remember the Holocaust" as it conducts a daily re-enactment of the Holocaust in Palestine - where you will get summarily shot or run over with bulldozers by the IDF no matter WHO you are - German, American, Australian, Iranian, South African or Palestinian, young or old or in the womb, crippled or healthy - because the IDF are the military arm of a racist genocidal Nazi state. Those are strong words to use, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you know what they say. Yes, yes, the naughty Palestinians keep blowing themselves up trying to kill some Israeli citizens, but let’s not lose sight of WHO is oppressing WHO in this decidedly one-sided situation. Let’s not lose sight of WHO is "ethnically cleansing" WHO in this ongoing atrocity.

      2. The USA didn’t really invade Iraq to stop the WMD’s. C’mon, folks, get real. It’s the oil. Plain and simple. Ditto for Afghanistan. Everyone KNOWS this, why deny it? It’s not politically correct to say such a thing, but it’s true, and everyone knows it. The Iraq invasion is an economic annexation to secure energy resources for the Empire.

      3. There are some unanswered questions surrounding the events of 11 September 2001. For example, where did the wreckage of the airliner go that allegedly hit the Pentagon? There WAS none. There was an impact and an explosion, but the photographic evidence says that it WAS NOT a commercial airliner. And certain other questions remain with the Twin Towers, with a UL scientist recently asserting that there is "now way" that the jet fuel fires could have melted or even buckled the towers’ steel structure sufficiently to precipitate the collapse. So there are valid questions that have not been credibly answered. But the one line that IS generally accepted is that the attacks were orchestrated by OBL and Al Quaeda.

      So now we have ONE piece of info that might be credible - a bunch of terrorists attacked the USA and killed 3,000 people on US soil. Those terrorists weren’t based in Iraq, had nothing much to do with Saddam Hussein OR Iraq, AND besides all that, Saddam Hussein didn’t even have any WMD.

      Did Iraq pose a threat to the USA? I think not. Did Iraq try and "Push America around"? First I heard of it - not that Iraq would be able to even if it wanted to, which it didn’t anyway. So what did Saddam Hussein DO to deserve having Iraq taken off him and ground down under the generally deplorable, ignorant, racist and even murderous behaviour of the massed American armed forces? One candidate answer - oil. No doubt there are other possible answers, but that’s my favourite.

      As I said, the American people are a kind and generous people - but IMO the USA has been hijacked by Zionist interests and dances to a Zionist tune. And it’s painfully obvious.

    • Consider the occupation of your country America say by the Chinese would you people not fight it with all the means at your disposal? Would you not burn and hang Chinese mercenaries from the Brooklyn Bridge? Or would you accept that the Chinese are there to install their democracy on a country that definitely has weapons of mass destruction and has used nuclear weapons twice against a helpless nation? No you would not so PLEASE dont make the mistake and expect the Iraqis to do so either.

    • You are an idiot. Im sure you voted for Bush you flag waiving puppet

    • They are not dumb enough to join you. Bush is bending you over and you dont even know it

    • You forget sir Saddam and Iraq had nothing to do with 911, even your own president told you so or are you people getting diferent news cast’s over in your country?

      Your country attacked another thats not even threatened you or murdered one of your fellow Americans yet you attacked Iraq murdering over 100,000 people mainly women and children and torturing and sodomising thier young children.

      No I dont think we need your help so next time read the news and watch your president telling you Iraq had no WMD and no connection to 911 and listen to him this time.

    • The poor iraqis have been caught in the middle. Congratulations to the troops for taking over fallujah. It’s about time. Next time they think about blowing up americans and stringing their carcass over a bridge, they’ll (...)

      WTF are you talking about? The "poor Iraqis" are the ones we are killing in Fallujah, and are the ones blowing up the Americans occupying their country in an illegal war of aggression. Our killiing is driving the killing, for God’s sake. We started this mess.

    • I don’t think so, Spain has bent over and grabbed their ankles to just sit and take it. They want to cater to this pigs. Oops! better not call them pigs had I.

    • No the people of Spain CHICKENED OUT and let Muslim radicals influence their policy. They hoped that by pulling their troops out of Iraq that the terrorists would give them "a pass" and leave them alone.

      Instead, the terrorists are still plotting bombing in Spain and the Spanish authorities barely uncovered a plot that would have had their destroyed thier Legislature building. You can’t negotiate or appease the terrorists. They are idealogues determined to kill the west and all that oppose them. Thats why they have to be put down like a rabid dog.

    • And we will give you the finger unless you have oil or something we want then we will be there even if you don’t want us there and we will murder your citizens and say we are liberating them...liberating them of their lives.

    • What bullshit, what do you know about Spain? You probbly don’t even know where it is with you’re 3rd grade education you have no concept of history or truth or anything else, you are just a big mouth looking for an audience.

    • No, he is just a male who has erectile dysfunction... advice, go take some more Viagra and watch some more football. You need a hero ball jockey to make you feel like a real man undoubtedly. Otherwise you would be over there helping the murdering bastard Bush do his evil deeds.

    • Oh so Bush is a sodomizer too...I thought it was just the troops who like turd tapping and fudge packing, but it makes sense that Bush is big daddy sodomizer the leader of the PACKERS.

    • Its a pitty your corporation’s are not as patriotic like you when they are exporting American jobs to third world countries like India and Pakistan...no patriots in big buisness for sure...but they will find you a nice little war to go and die in and make a few bucks off that too. Suckers.

    • Next time they think about blowing up Americans and stringing their carcass over a bridge??????...huh!... now wait up here these B----rds where mercenaries getting paid a damned site more than your regular G.I’s who are getting blasted for a lot less....these f-in scum got what they deserved. They taken the risk and the bloody cash and they paid the price like all mercenaries should.

    • WTF you talking about? You’ve been reading too much lefty propoganda.

    • What does it matter how much they are paid. They were working there in order to try to rebuild Iraq. Nobody who is trying to help deserves to get treated in the way they died.

  • I’m new to your website.
    I read a lot of rheteric, but few facts.
    Can you report the exact number of total votes in Ohio, and numbers for Kerry & Bush?
    If there are voting irregularities, why aren’t they challenged by Kerry?

  • Correct me if I’m wrong, but dogs are not even in Iraq because they are considered a filthy animal. Huh! Much like the insurgents. One other thing, what about the slaughter houses that have been discovered. Is this also a lie or are you the true liar. Just wandering. Yours truly the Frenchie.

    • From the look of things, I suppose you cannot rule out the US shooting these people...they got at least one on national news at the moment.

    • What about the torture houses of Al Grabi, what of the torture house in Cuba? What of the torture houses around the world your shiping them to now? people in glass houses should not throw stone’s.

    • I must correct you you are wrong, I think Yahoo news has pictures of Iraq war which include an American soldier petting a skinny mal nurished dog he found and there is a cat in the photo as well.

  • What a load of crap. The America-haters have no solutions. They can only complain and support those that destroy society.

    I’ve got news for you, Iraq will be free and democratic.

    • Americans shoot first and scratch their heads later. solutions are not welcome in our world. yes, our world. we all do live on this planet you know. you always go on about democracy. seems to me the UN is a democratic institution. but when the world said no to your solution of death, you still went ahead anyway. and now a countless number of people have died and are going to die. seems democracy only suits you when you can manipulate it. americans are well known for putting in puppet regimes that serve their own interests. the iraqi people are not stupid. most peoples answer to this is ’well, they got rid of saddam anyway’. i would like to know which child you would sacrifice to get rid of saddam.

    • At the end of the day Iraq was an ARAB problem that demanded an ARAB solutrion. Why does the US have to interfere every where ? Why does it have military bases in 86 other countries ?? To economically be the richest state -BUT only for a FEW people. -92% of USA wealth is owned by 5% of the population. It dresses up all its adventures and armed robberies round the world as ’’peace keeping’’ or ’’a threat to the USA’’ using it’s corporate media that is owned by people in the 5%. All those innocent charred bodies in Iraq are victims of trusting a dodgy leader and believing their media -we should not travel the same road

    • You know the same thing could be said about Hitler. Hitler was a European problem and should have a European solution. However, it took the lives of millions of Russians and some help from the United States to solve it. The same can be said for Afghanistan and Iraq. The Arabs have morons for leaders who are unable to coordinate anything.

      I agree with you, why is the US all over the place? But europeans are military dwarves who couldn’t even handle Kosovo or the Bosnia situation without asking the US for help. Our government is in the of reconfiguring the military in a big way so that we minimize our presence in europe, south korea and in other places that should be able to defend themselves but are too lazy to do so. It can’t happen fast enough for me. As far as I’m concerned anything that happens that doesn’t affect the US directly should not be our problem. As for the wealth, we earned it. If europeans complain about that then they should cut out their six week vacations and shorter hours. Europeans always expect to get something for nothing. Cheap bastards.

    • What solutions have the non-americans come up with? Usually it’s just scratching their heads and shrugging about it.

    • yeah, you europeans is alweys wineing, we saved yer ass back in 1940’s youse all be speaking Kraut if it wern’t fer good ole USA.

      Definitely preferable.

    • errr - wrong. the Brits resisted Hitler in the early 40s. Ever hear of the Battle of Britain dumbass?

      America didnt join the fight until DECEMBER 1941.

      And three-quarters of the German army were on the Eastern Front fighting the Russians - 20 MILLION Russians died in that stuggle. No go fuck yerself with that "Americans saved us Europeans" claptrap.

    • You called that right. The Soviets had to die desperately while the Allies waited until mid 1944 to open up a serious second front (and yet Stalin is accused of being manipulative and treacherous!). The difference in casualties suffered and casualties inflicted speaks for itself.
      The US is being pushed around? By who exactly? The US smacks around everyone who dares to think and act for themselves. And they wonder why there is resentment and resistance. A lot of Americans realize all this and do protest but their voices don’t get into the mainstream media. And therein lies a big part of the problem. Perhaps the only thing more corrupt than the Federal government is the big media.

    • And we know what your solution is...Carnage. And forget the free and democratic bullsh’t. The Zionists who control the US and it’s gang of backers are there for the oil.
      But you won’t get it. And what you do get will be much more expensive than the alternative . Yes, paying for it.

    • Reading this bullsh’t, now I know how GB got reelected. Just don’t hope for a mix with Europe, bub. The US would be gone faster in than a NY minute! Reminder...Battle of the Bulge. And that was just the Germans...

      Europeans? Cheap bastards? Hah! What the hell is the US doing in Iraq other than stealing someone else’s property.

    • The problem with this bigmouth you retorted to is he/she is not representative of REAL Americans. Real Americans are independent and freedom loving to the point they will not involve themselves in any foreign misadventures. That is not to say they would abandon their friends and in fact I would go as far to say that the REAL British are the same.
      Unfortunately, the US and Britain were hijacked many decades ago by Zionists dressed up as Americans and British but working to their own agenda for an establishment of Israel and therefore to legalise their criminality. As for this REAL American, we are fighting the wrong guys in the middle east.

    • "They can only complain and support those that destroy society.
      I’ve got news for you, Iraq will be free and democratic."

      What? Free and democratic like the good old USA?

      I wonder if Allawi will get more votes than people registered to vote? Just like in the US.

    • Brits resisted Hitler?! Battle of Britain where the Americans also flew? LOL! The huns had your asses right up to the atlantic ocean if it weren’t for the russians distracting them. And if you had read the post, the russians were given credit. As for waiting until 1941, that’s right. Why should we go in earlier if you europeans morons wanted to kill each other? Hitler and Stalin should have taken the whole lot of you.

    • Yeah, we should be scared of european military dwarves.

      As for Iraq, the iraqis can thank saddam for losing the country.

    • Again, why should americans rush in to die for europeans stupid enough to start world war 2?

    • American never saved Europe, you came into the war near the end to steal the glory...it was the Russian’s who defeated Germany....ask yourselfs who got to Berlin first? You cant claim to be first when you came second in a race....you Yanks are strange people with very strange ideas....no wonder Bush got in again.

    • HA HA...oh. You’re serious. The US military is suffering what the Soviets suffered in Afghanistan.

      Google these two things and chew well-
      Operation Vigilant Warrior and
      Operation Mockingbird

      Now read this speech by former CIA Angola Station Chief John Stockwell-
      http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4068.htm

      And look at some photos-
      http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm

    • The Brits resisted in the early 40’s but barely hung on by their fingernails. No way they could have pushed the Germans out of Western Europe by themselves. They probably wouldn’t have been able to push the Germans out of Africa without US supplies. The Russians did a lot of the dying and fought more of the germans than we did, but could they have pushed the Germans out without the tens of thousands of tanks, planes, ships, guns, and food we sent them? It also helped that the US bombers obliterated German industry. Plus we took out the Japanese ourselves (with some Aussie help in New Guinea.)

      It’s not popular to admit in Europe to admit how much the US has done for Europe. Just shows how thankless and obnoxious many Europeans are.

    • Americans never saved Europe? Then how the hell did we end up controlling most of western europe until the fall of the Soviet Union? And what glory are you talking about? The place was a mess. YOU HAD NOTHING! And yes, we Yanks are a strange people, we were stupid enough give money to the europeans to build up the place instead of colonizing you and making you our slaves like you did to the rest of the world.

    • That is a laugh..everyone knows that Bush is a total moron, he can barely speak English, and half of what he says is garbbled and if it wasn’t for Karl or Dick whispering in his ear the answers to questions from the 9/11 commission or the debates, this moron wouldn’t be able to fool even you.

    • Even if we have to kill everyone to give them freedom!

    • You better go read the Patriot Act 1 and 2 your lovely Mr Bush and Co have passed...you will find that you are nothing more than slave’s now.

      Nearly every last bills of rights are all but gone and you’re heading towards a fascist state.

      When Mr Bush said and I quote… If you’re not with us you are with the terrorists (sorry freedom fighters) he meant the American public too

      Some of your senate members have been saying for years before the 911 atrocity that your constitution and the bill of rights is the enemy of America and 911 was a god send (if not a put up job) to strip you of your constitution and the your bill of rights.

      They have suckered the American public in well and truly and all this in the name of beating terrorism you know. SURE!

      People of America I implore you WAKE UP and stop it all before it’s to late and your marched off never to be seen again. Defend your constitution and rights…you fought for them before and now you will have to fight for them again.

    • Frankly, I think you are ignorant of those two pieces of legislation. They really didn’t make much difference in people’s lives. If it was as bad as you say, there wouldn’t be this many people from the US spouting off about stolen elections.

    • I got news for you; Iraq will be free and democratic????? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Jesus I am pissing my sides ha ha ha ha ha ha. Hey!!!! it hurt’s when I laugh.

      How the hell can anyone in America say they have fair and democratic elections? ha ha ha ha ha God you people are so dumb.

      The rich are laughing all the way to the bank with your tax dollars...they have never had it so good and at your expense... ha ha ha ha haaaaaa.

      Having said that though my fellow British are making me wonder.

    • I don’t understand your post. Did you prefer it when Iraqis were suffering under Saddam or do you think that the Iraqis are incapable of running a free and democratic society?

    • The "America haters" have a solution...get the fuck out.

    • even if we have to kill every one of them to make it so, right?

  • The last chance for the US to "save face" and get out of Iraq was just after Saddam was captured. Once Saddam had been captured, the US should have declared "mission accomplished", turned Saddam over to the World Court and left Iraq. Now the US faces 2 losing scenarios, either the US stays in Iraq for decades and fights a constant war, or the US simply leaves, in which case, an anti-American, anti-Israel Iraqi strong-man will lead the new Iraq. So, anyway you look at things, the US WILL LOSE the war in Iraq.

    • Saddam will never get to any court..he knows too much and can not be allowed to speak out or the game will be up and all of Bush’s secrets will be out in the open. He can never be tried in any court in the US or in an international court.

  • Shtupid yanks. They have made an Alamo out of Fallujah,but this time they are the Mexicans!!

    • Our president Bush is clearly a maniac. He is no better than a thug, or a crook. One thing is for certain, these guys are arrogant as can be. And this is getting harder to ignore. I feel that the American people are pretty smart, but extremely distracted. As soon as americans start catching on to this charade, and truly desiring the truth, well see that these guys dont have that much power after all. The sooner this happens the better, because unfortunately, these kinds of situations can end up deadly. Just keep chiseling away. Many times in history whole dictatorships and corrupt governments have collapsed as the result of very few people. Nothing is impossible, if we have a genuine desire for true freedom for everyone, well thats stronger than any crap fox news can put out.

    • Huh? Do you even know any american history?

    • um, the Mexicans won at the Alamo.

    • May I add my vote for the reader/writter who said we have just just made an Iraq ALAMO with theUS taking the part of the Mexicans. The same thought has crossed my mind many a time. Here are some guys in remnants of uniforms if that, with small arms and RPGs and GUTS taking on the US military might and doing a pretty fair job of it. I doubt they have thermal imaging devices, night vision gogles, surely don’t have body armor and of course lack any air power, yet through guts they are giving a good accounting of themselves. They have nothing to be ashamed of. Surely they will be a ralling point for public sentiment.

    • Dude, it was because of the Alamo that the United States got a bigger army to smack Mexico upside the head and made Texas a free country before it petitioned to join the US. The total ignorance of europeans and lefty americans amaze me.

    • True they are defending their country and just like in Vietnam they will prevail because they are on the side of right.

    • If this was like Vietnam (which it isn’t) then the whole middle east should tremble. After the US pulled out the viet commies ended up on a three country killing spree. They killed the intellectuals, landowners, and other people of substance. These terrorists will do the same thing. They will try to suppress all the joy out of life. And what are you moron lefties going to do? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. You guys are the cheerleaders of thugs and murderers.

    • The real cheerleaders here are the Bush supporters who are so stupid they vote against the well being of their own class for the biggest murder and thug of all time Bush who has murdered over 100,000 Iraqis and is trying to steal their resources...history will tell the story of what evils are happening to Iraq in this tragic illegal war...Bush is the devil and his supporters are his followers...

    • I actually think this will be a footnote in Iraq’s history. Rather, history will focus on Iraq producing leaders that built a stable democratic country.

    • You are sooo stupid...Cambodia was ruled by the war lord Pol Pot who went on a killing spree of his own people...civil war is civil war. Yes the commies tried after the war ended to indoctrinate the South Vietnamese in education camps, etc., but they did not go on a killing spree. The US military killed 3 million Vietnamese with carpet bombs and agent orange I guess that was your idea of a love fest.

  • No WMD’s after all the rhetoric about 45 minute away drones of death. No proof at all of 911 being carried out by OBL and his chums. (Oh, yeah, that’s right! Miraculous fire resistant passports falling from the sky!). A whole pile of gold missing from the ruins of the WTC (Silver was found though and minted into coins!) etc.etc.etc. Duuuh, what’s wrong with this picture? Wake up and smell the lies uh, coffee. Makes Hitler’s adventure into Poland look like a boy scouts outing. Lies, lies, lies
    And now over 100,000 dead in Iraq, a nation invaded on lies? Who are the terrorists? Would you fight back if some military juggernaut invaded your shores, slaughtered your family and friends?? Insurgents = resistance.

    • The problem is that there are no winners, not the Iraquis, not the Americans, not the world. Every life is precious. We are not Americans, Iraquis, Europeans.... we are human beings. It’s time everyone starts acting like it. Unfortunately, violence only begets violence. Instead of each "side" playing one-upmanship, isn’t it time we try to get that useless organization "dedicated to world peace"-the United Nations- to try to solve this entire problem, or is Kofi Anon too busy counting his cash from the "food for oil" fiasco?

    • Same mongering, while young under educated troops on BOTH sides die for severly under educated "leaders". That said Bless the germans they helped America get to the Moon SECOND! to the victor goes the spoils I.e. the best stolen scientists. The best Bizzarro twilight zone ending would be for the "Arabs" to create an alternative to fossil fuel and stop pumping oil all together sighting environmental concerns and give the fuel to those who merrit it. Yes yes, you say, but they have alternatives!, my ass hybrids and electric cars dont do porsche or Mercedes any good dodge for that reason as well. Allow this empire its fitting end and a place in history as the shortest lived, worst managed and least contributing to the future that is a mark to be beat by the next fools thinkin they can actually rule a planet that has evolved since BC unlike these dinosaurs in suits pointing troops to doom. Let them extinguish themselves, let us feed them to crops for nourishment, ripe manure the crops for the hungry, forgotten and marginalized.
      Knife@YourThroat.com/on

    • the end of time is near folks>>2012 is it Next year all the real NWO and Bush with his Illuminati and Satanist agenda will weaken further the US.

    • I red this article and i have to agree that the Bush regime it only cares about oil$$$$$ ,the wealthy 1% and it will bankrup the US economy and the stupid population that still swallows the garbage put out every second by the multibillion dollar news media,not to mention the religious evengelical born again fanatics that will continue to be a deciding electoral force in the US. All this imperialistic bush agenda will come to an end when the US economy starves due to the lost of jobs, and overspending, just like what happened in the soviet Union and its economic crash,so will the same happen to the US.
      As for the iligal war in Iraq, look around the neighboring countries in the middle east, how many democracies do you see?Kuwait?NO,UAE?NO,Saudi Arabia?NO, Jordan? NO,etc. So why would the US think that Iraq has to be a Democracy? , that is just the excuse to put a puppet government that would allow exxon,Esso,Shell,mobil,UNOCAL,etc to rip Iraq natura resource OILoff. The resistance in Iraq is too large to be called terrorist anylonger, they are the true freedom fighters defending their nation from ocupation. By the way how many Israeli soldiers are supportting the US forces????does anyone knows??.

    • Only red-necks and trailer trash support this imbecile in the WH. Just look at the states that voted for him. Any state with an IQ over 100 went with Kerry. That means all the people with a lick of intelligence could see that Bush needs to be permanently erased from this planet. Only the stupidest people in this country couldn’t see it. All it took to sway the election was to show a video of the bogeyman on Halloween and the sheep ran for cover.

      Civil war has already begun, even if it is just the beginning. There is an incredible amount of true Patriots that know deep in their hearts it is time for action.

      All you apologists for these criminals will fry in Hell along with them.

    • Have Arab scientists ever invented anything in the past 100 years?

    • You obvious are not bright, a state does not have an IQ.

    • Our stupid moron of a pretend president flipped the bird at the UN when he invaded Iraq, or did you forget? He flipped the bird at the rest of the world too and then he went around and asked them to all come and help out when he realized it wasn’t going to be a cake walk, did you forget, he already asked the UN to come help, they declined as did the rest of the world except the bribed and the hoodwinked, did you not pay attention to this?

    • Did you not pay atttention when Bush flipped the finger at the UN? He also flipped the finger to the rest of the world except the bribed and hoodwinked, then when he realized this wasn’t going to be a cake walk, he went begging for help from the UN, they declined, then he begged the other Europeans and they just laughed at him (he is a joke) did you not know this? Maybe you just watch Fox.

    • Did you forget that Bush flipped the finger to the UN and every other country that would not go along with his phony war? Then when he realized that it would bankrupt the country he ran to them all including the UN and cried for help. They all declined as they knew what a phony bullshit war this is and they aren’t as stupid as the American public which has allowed our country to be run into the ground. You really must stop watching Fox, you need to check out other news sources to keep up.

    • After Bush flipped off the rest of the world including the UN they were less than willing to go help us in Iraq. After Bush realized this wasn’t going to be over without bankrupting the US, he asked them all to help and they laughed a lot before telling him NO.

    • I hope that Bush keeps flipping the finger at the UN and other obstructionist countries. They were useless helping the Iraqis before they are useless now. And how can we be bankrupted when we have Iraqi oil, the second largest reserves in the world. This is going to set us up for the next 50 years.

    • I guess you were on a mental vacation (maybe permanent) when Bush gave the UN and the world the finger and then went ahead "you’re either with us or against us" with his oil grab. When he found out it wasn’t going to be a cake walk, he went begging to the rest of the world and the UN for help, they promptly gave him the finger which he so richly deserved...pay attention then you won’t have to ask ridiculous questions.

  • The fact is that most of the American people either are very stupid or don’t care. My hope is that we are very stupid.

  • CARY G DEAN
    ENGLAND
    EBAYSECRETS@ESALES.COM

    THIS REMINDS ME OF THE SAYING "HE WHO FIGHTS AND RUNS AWAY LIVES TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY"