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EVIL OR STUPID: IT DOESN’T MATTER

by Open-Publishing - Wednesday 22 March 2006
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Edito Governments USA David R. Hoffman

by David R. Hoffman

I once saw a bumper sticker that read: “I’ve never made a mistake. I thought I did once, but I was wrong.”

Well I have made a mistake. And today I must apologize to loyal PRAVDA.Ru readers, and to the thirty percent of Americans still enamored with the Bush dictatorship.

George W. Bush is not evil. He’s just stupid.

On second thought, this stupidity does make him susceptible to the Machiavellian machinations of evil men, like Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales and the rest of the plutocratic oligarchs who control America so extensively they can even abandon the façade of consulting with their puppet when developing policies detrimental to the nation and the world, but beneficial to their avariciousness and corruption.

If this reality was ever in doubt, one need only reflect upon the oligarchs’ now infamous attempt to transfer management of several American port terminals to a Middle-Eastern company. According to reports, Bush was not even privy to discussions about this plan until after they had been completed.

Of course this was not the first time the puppet masters ignored their puppet. In the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks, reports also indicated that Bush was basically treated like an annoying child who is instructed to play in the corner while the “grown-ups” engage in conversation.

So perhaps Bush’s befuddled look of surprise, captured so well in Michael Moore’s documentary FAHRENHEIT 9/11, was genuine. Perhaps he had been left out of the conspiracy designed to permit, via act or omission, the September 11th attacks so he could appear earnest while regurgitating the fictitious “intelligence” used to rationalize the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Nevertheless, it would seem that any leader with a modicum of integrity would be incensed over the idea of being shut out of discussions having such momentous political ramifications. But Bush is not such a leader. Instead he possesses two of the most dangerous attributes a stupid person can have: arrogance and power. And history has established, time and again, that a stupid and arrogant man with power will never admit he is wrong.

Unfortunately this stupidity caused Bush to play directly into Al-Qaeda’s hands. Since terrorists have no Air Force or Navy, the opportune solution is to make their enemies come to them. Ironically many sycophantic Bush supporters have confirmed the effectiveness of this strategy by proclaiming, “Better to have terrorism in Iraq than in the United States.” Translated into real terms, this means that the Bush methodology for fighting the “war on terror” is to simply provide terrorists with alternative targets, namely American soldiers and Iraqi civilians.

Iraq was the ideal nation for Al-Qaeda to test such a strategy. The imperialist powers responsible for drawing Iraq’s borders demonstrated little concern for the religious and ethnic differences of the people who resided within, thus making Iraq a tinderbox of ethnic and religious hostilities. Even the most rudimentary tactician could have foreseen that destabilizing such a region directly increased the potential for civil war. In fact, one reason the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) helped elevate the Ba’ath Party to power in Iraq was to ensure that Saddam Hussein’s brutality would keep political, ethnic and religious hostilities in check. Yet the puppeteers in the Bush dictatorship replaced this reality with the quixotic belief that the invasion and occupation of Iraq would actually have the opposite effect.

Now Americans, in their belated predictability, are recognizing this reality as well. A recent AP-Ipsos poll revealed that an overwhelming majority (seventy percent of Republicans and ninety percent of Democrats) believes civil war is inevitable in Iraq. Yet, as I read those numbers, I wondered how many people entertaining those viewpoints were just a few years ago attending pro-war rallies, elevating Bush, Cheney and other war criminals to the status of demigods, and obsequiously supporting the very liars, profiteers and hypocrites who led the nation into this quagmire in the first place.

So, on second thought, I retract my apology. Since George W. Bush’s combustible combination of stupidity, arrogance and power makes him susceptible to the Machiavellian machinations of evil men, he is, by proxy, evil as well.

Unfortunately it is an evil that has been rewarded and applauded by the American people. In fact, the entire creation of the Bush dictatorship was simply a test to gauge how much freedom, justice and democracy Americans would be willing to lose.

As I stated in previous PRAVDA.Ru articles, the greatest enemy of the plutocratic oligarchs was the Constitution, and is the Bill of Rights. The Constitution was destroyed during the Bush dictatorship’s coup of 2000 with the aid of corrupt election officials and an equally corrupt United States Supreme Court. This coup successfully obliterated the check-and-balance system, and transformed the legislative and judicial branches of government into handmaidens prostrating themselves before the executive branch.

The attacks of September 11th were designed to determine whether the American people would allow their fundamental rights and civil liberties to be replaced by unjust laws and inhuman barbarisms once considered anathema to America’s alleged respect for freedom and human rights—Patriot Acts, detentions without charge or trial, the denial of due process of law, illegal surveillance programs, torture and murder.

The build-up to the war against Iraq was a ploy intended to measure the gullibility of the American people and their willingness to obediently accept “great lies” while the plutocrats enriched themselves through wartime profiteering.

The equally corrupt election of 2004 was used to ascertain whether the adage “Americans are loath to change leaders during wartime” was true even though the legality of that war was in question, and even when that leader was directly responsible for the lies that started it. Sheepishly, Americans validated this adage.

Now all that is left to destroy is the Bill of Rights.

So I have a prediction: There will be another major terrorist attack on American soil before the 2008 presidential election. Like the September 11th attacks, this one will also be encouraged by the Bush dictatorship.

But the motive will be much more sinister. Instead of being exploited to divert attention from a corrupt election, or as a pretense to start an illegal war, the plutocratic oligarchs will use this attack as a ruse to appoint their puppet “President for Life.” Seizing upon the Bush dictatorship’s rhetoric that the war on terrorism will be a “lifelong” war, these oligarchs will announce to a panicked populace that a “lifelong” leader will be required to fight it. Then, shortly after this announcement, the Bush dictatorship will further manipulate the fear generated by this attack and place America under martial law, thereby eradicating the Bill of Rights altogether.

It is no coincidence that, as worldly power falls more and more into the hands of evil men, talk of the inevitability of Armageddon has increased. But if the end of the world is nigh, the cause will not be nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. They will only be the effect. The cause will be humankind’s terminal myopia that inexplicably, yet persistently, permits men of evil to obtain power in the first place.

David R. Hoffman, Legal Editor of PRAVDA.Ru

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/13-03-2006/77163-Bush-0

Forum posts

  • I don’t share you opinion. I think on the contrary everybody wants to get rid of the puppet. His popularity has dropped below 33%. And I think they could use a terrorist attack in an American Port right now to get rid of Bush. Remember Bush threatened to use his veto for the first time against Congress. He is now carrying the full wait of this decision. Which means the neo-cons which manipulated him into it will get through the crisis without a problem and simply will put another puppet instead of Bush.

    If they want a president for life, at least, they need him to be popular to make it work.

    Well, just my 2 cents.

    Raskolnikov

    • Sorry, stupid error: weight instead of wait of course. Duh! :p

      Rasko

    • I think that’s the point. That people who lust for power will NOT be gotten rid of, despite the will of the people. Don’t forget, Bush assumed power IN SPITE of the will of the majority of Americans, relying instead on his brother, a corrupt secretary of state named Katherine Harris and an equally corrupt, deceitful Supreme Court to accomplish his coup. What made him so "popular" was his ability to manipulate the fear over the 9/11 attacks. Just a few years ago Americans were swallowing up Bush’s lies about Iraq like they were candy.
      Now that his popularity is waning, he is even more dangerous, because he will need once again to instill fear in the populace so his handlers can promote their venal and evil agenda. Americans are like tumbleweeds. Give them the right wind and they’ll blow in any direction that circumstances permit. After all, how many of those who want to be rid of Bush today naively voted for him in 2004. As Hoffman points out, that is America’s weakness: the inability to see beyond the end of its nose.

    • OK, but that last thing is not typical of Americans, it’s a result of the way voting systems work. They will always reflect what the "mass" wants, and the mass is just a dumb uniform monstrosity.

      And nothing prevents the neo-cons to throw away the actual puppet and replace it with another more popular one? But I must admit I’m not quite aware of what are the possibilities for them politically.

      Raskolnikov

    • The media is all a part of the propaganda machine. If they quote polls with 33%in favor of W.it is probably around 20%.
      Do not believe polls or the television media.
      I believe that W. truely did not want to go to war in Iraq he just did what he was told to do like any good little boy!
      This author is right on ... W. is ignorant and arrogant.. and hundreds of thousands are dying as a result!!

    • I am not sure who it is that wants Bush out of office. Which leads me to my past concerns about various polls that are conducted. Questions arise in my mind about how the questions/wording used; the participating audience; etc... I have always suspected that poll results are designed to enforce some already held belief of a selected group.

      Frankly, I don’t see this unpopulatiry that people are talking about. In my community and the people who I assoiciate with socially, Bush is as, if not more, popular than ever before. That 33 p.c. approval rating that folks are talking about is certainly false if you were considering my town — Where there is 100 p.c. approval rating.

      The other thing that doesn’t seem to fit is that on the one hand there are persons who talk about the Amerian public as not paying attention to the war on Iraq and that the MSM is not presenting enough of the war’s picture. If this is true then what is the use in asking American’s anything relating to war?

      The only thing that appears to be true is that one way or another the Americans (of both the "democratic" and "republican" oolors) are of the same opinion as their leaders.

    • Polls or no polls, Bush is hated throughout the world and his own conservatives are bailing out every day. Anyone who believes that America holds him in high esteem also believes in mother goose and santa claus. Naturally, all those who love the puppet will stick by him until the end. Fans still love losing ball teams, even when the losers are definitely losers. Whether this is noble or otherwise really doesn’t matter to them. Bush will have fans long after he has left office.

    • Perhaps you need to look at the demographics of your home town, and compare them with the average demographics of America, and the rest of the world. You might find that your town consists of nothing but right-wing "Christians"!

  • Avoid using the daft American expression "well." Do not begin or end a sentence with a prepostion. Avoid using the words: then, maybe, if and it. "it" is a pronoun that modifies a pronoun. Never use "it is." Verbosity and triteness pollute your text. The modifier "that" is missing from all of your sentences..

  • I consider the sources on American web sites. I cannot understand why an editor would use prepositions at the beginning and ends of sentences, or use the words: it, it is, then, well, maybe, but, and avoid the use of the modifier "that" in all of your sentences. I suggest that you read Sir George Gower’s book on grace in writing. Remember: "it" is a pronoun that is intended to modify a pronoun.

    • Personally I think it is the height of ignorance to look at an insightful article and only be capable of judging its writing. And did you ever stop to think that perhaps what you criticize was intended as the style of the piece? I found it obvious that the author was trying to underscore the dangers of the Bush regime in a semi-humorous manner. And humor often requires the very elements you seem so quick to condemn. The world is not made up simply of pomp and arrogance. Writing styles are as varied as individuals. What next? Are you going to criticize other works because the authors use slang, etc. as a way of making a point. It’s sad that we are living in a world where a madman is in charge of the most powerful nation, and all one can do is whine about grammar.

    • Anyone with any intelligence would see that the writer citing grammar and form is playing the devils advocate and making little of just one more long-winded essay that will go nowhere or do nothing. The madman that you suggest was put there by 35,000,000 other people known as
      americans. That is, the most hated and IGNORANT AND ARROGANT in the civilized world.

    • I’m not being glib, but I really don’t understand your message or your reason for it. Would you rather have people not say anything at all? The fact of the matter is some so-called "long-winded essays" have been responsible for some of the most famous social movements in the world: Fanon’s Wretched of the Earth, Paine’s Common Sense, and Thoreau’s Civil Disobedience have all inspired social change. Maybe such change would have happened without their writings, but I wouldn’t want to gamble on it!

    • Are you really serious about using those names with any present day American? Sould that be so, your problem is a long way from glib. Here is my answer: Qui annus est? Proximum!!

    • Remember, those American Gestapo who are monitoring this cite are laughing with glee as the masses argue and wrangle about nothing. Wake up, this isn’t a NASCAR race or a bass tournament! After five years in Universitystudying the liberal arts and the humanities and 160 credits later, I do not need a lecture on literature from you. Yes, greater people than anyone who exists today did influence changes and bring about the Renaissance and Reformation They do not exist in your country today. Do not delude yourself!

    • I assume from your tone that you are British. Perhaps you have never heard Winston Churchill’s famous retort when an editor rewrote one of his lines to avoid a preposition at the end of a sentence “This is the sort of bloody nonsense up with which I will not put.” By the way, you misspelled “preposition” in your original diatribe. Just one more item. You say to never use “It is.” Perhaps you would not accept the following line from another famous Brit? “I go, and it is done; the bell invites me” —from Macbeth. Most of what you wrote is pure tripe.

    • In fact, recent developments have approved the use of prepositions at the end of sentences. After reading the nonsense of the grammar police on this site, I am reminded of a joke about an incoming college freshman attending an ivy league school. He asked an upperclassman, "Can you tell me where the administration building is at?"
      The upperclassman replied condescendingly, "At this school, we don’t end our sentences with a preposition."
      The freshman replied, "Okay, can you tell me where the administration building is at, a**hole!"

    • Good catch. Isn’t it amazing that those idiots who seem to derive joy from nitpicking, yet normally are too gutless to take a principled stand themselves, are always ready to jump on someone else, but can’t catch their own mistakes. Why worry about prepositions when you can’t even spell the word?

    • You are fishing. Typos mean nothing. Licentia Poetica. Here I end this personal reply because I see that I am arguing with you and not what was written. You eat too much tripe, American, your spleen is showing.

  • In spite of his demeanour, he is NOT stupid, he is evil and just doesn’t give a s*** what Americans think of him. We need to be very careful about divesting the country of the neocon infection that retarded Americans have inflicted on us. I believe that as the whole bunch goes down they’re going to take as many of us out with them. They WILL NOT let go of power without some sort of retaliation.

    • ’Depleted’ uranium (there’s GOT to be a more truthful name for this substance from the pits of hell...) is EVIL, not stupid.

      ’Stupid’ would mean that as soon as the radiation poisoning problems surfaced, the use of DU would have been stopped—"Oops!—we made a REALLY big MISTAKE!! Let’s try to fix it!"

      Hasn’t happened.

      DU is the biggest evidence that the administration headed by bush-the-figurehead is EVIL, NOT stupid.

      And it DOES matter— because tHEy have more darkly intelligent ’plans’ for American citizens and the rest of humanity... mainly along the genocide lines...

      Cassandra

    • cassandra , i wish you were wrong , but i too am convinced after scouring every media publication i could possibly read and digest over the last 3 years that you are totally correct about their evil intentions, and the problem isnt just in wash dc, but entrenched in local governments in usa as well as almost every so called democratic country in the world. they do want dominion over us and will eliminate anything or anyone in their way. i suggest a worldwide strike, or submit and get it over with quick

    • I agree, but I do think that Hoffman thinks Bush is evil as well. If you recall, he does mention Bush is susceptible to the manipulation of evil men, which makes him evil by proxy. He also closes by talking about a world controlled by evil men.
      I think what is relevant here is the now infamous ports deal, which shows that Bush is often left out of the loop when it comes to decisions involving national security. The fact that, despite these snubs, he still blindly comes to the defense of the very men who snubbed him, I think does demonstrate stupidity.
      Several of Hoffman’s articles are on Bellaciao, including one entitled Bush vs. Hitler. I would suggest you read them, and you will see that in this one Hoffman is basically jesting when he states Bush is just stupid. The title says it all: "Evil or Stupid. It doesn’t matter." After all the results are the same.

    • Moussaoui Prosecutors Close With FBI Agent By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN, Associated Press Writer
      5 minutes ago

      Prosecutors wrapped up their case for executing Zacarias Moussaoui with a former FBI agent’s testimony Thursday that the bureau could have identified 11 of the Sept. 11 hijackers if the al-Qaida conspirator had confessed when he was arrested a month before the suicide attacks.

      Before court-appointed defense attorneys could begin their case, Moussaoui announced loudly as he left for a recess that he would testify in his own behalf.

      "I will testify, Zerkin, whether you want it or not," he said, referring to one of his lawyers, Gerald Zerkin. The 37-year-old Frenchman, who is the only person charged in this country in connection with the 2001 attacks, has refused to cooperate with his lawyers.

      Former FBI agent Aaron Zebley testified that Moussaoui’s admission, when he pleaded guilty last April, that he received more than $14,000 in wire transfers from a man using the name Ahad Sabet could have allowed the FBI to go through Western Union, cell phone, calling-card and motor vehicle records, as well as leases and other business materials to identify most of the 19 hijackers who flew jetliners into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field.

      U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema, who has told the jury it cannot decide Moussaoui’s punishment "on speculation," barred Zebley from explicitly asserting what the FBI would have accomplished had he confessed when arrested Aug. 16, 2001.

      But Zebley gave prosecutors their strongest testimony in a week when many of their witnesses ended up buttressing the defense argument that the FBI and Federal Aviation Administration badly bungled better intelligence about 9/11 than Moussaoui had in the summer of 2001.

      Zebley implied that Moussaoui’s lies when arrested while taking pilot lessons in Minnesota foreclosed several avenues of investigation that might have saved at least one of the nearly 3,000 lives lost on 9/11.

      "We could have set about finding the hijackers," Zebley said.

      For the first hour of more than two hours on the stand Thursday, Zebley had jurors leaning forward to follow his explanation of how FBI agents moved from the data in records of one money transfer by Western Union, through incoming and outgoing calls to a phone number listed on the Western Union record, to the businesses that were called from all those phone numbers, to home addresses listed on business and bank transaction records, to leases and driver’s licenses and other IDs recorded by landlords. He said the identities of 11 of the hijackers were learned by these methods within weeks after the attacks and these records existed in August, 2001.

      On cross-examination, defense lawyer Edward MacMahon pointed out that neither Moussaoui’s statements after arrest nor anything found in a post-9/11 search of his possessions gave away that he got that money transfer by wire. The defense has argued that under the Fifth Amendment Moussaoui had no obligation to incriminate himself when arrested.

      MacMahon asked why the FBI didn’t launch a full criminal investigation of Moussaoui in August 2001 based on 70 appeals to Washington by arresting agent Harry Samit who warned that Moussaoui was a terrorist training to hijack an airliner.

      "The FBI has to have a confession ... before anybody listens?" MacMahon asked.

      Zebley replied that Samit did not know all the details in Moussaoui’s 2005 confession.

      MacMahon got Zebley to acknowledge that nothing in the confession or in FBI evidence gathered since then shows any contact between Moussaoui and the 9/11 hijackers, who lived, trained and traveled together in small groups. Moussaoui pleaded guilty to conspiring with al-Qaida to fly planes into U.S. buildings. But he says he had nothing to do with 9/11 and was training to fly a 747 jetliner into the White House as part of a possible later attack.

      MacMahon brought out that the CIA knew in March 2001 that two of the 9/11 hijackers — Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mindhar — had entered the United States in 2000 after attending a conference with Osama bin Laden associates in Malaysia. He showed that the CIA finally told the FBI on Aug. 23, 2001, that the pair were in the United States, and that the FBI sent a message marked "routine" on Aug. 28 asking its New York office to look for them. On Sept. 10, 2001, the FBI New York office asked the Los Angeles office to check for them in hotels there, according an FBI document MacMahon introduced.

      "What could have been done if the U.S. government had tracked al-Hazmi and al-Mindhar in the summer of 2001?" MacMahon asked. "We’ll never know, right?"

      Zebley conceded that point.

      Earlier in the trial, Samit said he spent four weeks warning his bosses about the radical Islamic student pilot. He said "criminal negligence" and bureaucratic resistance by FBI headquarters agents blocked "a serious opportunity to stop the 9/11 attacks."

      This sentencing trial will determine whether Moussaoui is executed or imprisoned for life.

      ___

      Associated Press Writer Matthew Barakat contributed to this report
      if i were a wagering man, i would bet my last dollar that Moussaoui’s testimoney will be blacked out to viewers, he was on the cia payroll in case you dont know this.

    • Copyright Gerard Holmgren. Jan 2003 debunker@hotmail.com http://proliberty.com/observer/2003... From the August 2003 Idaho Observer:


      The looniest of all 9/11 conspiracy theories

      “Let us not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories,” President Bush stated amid increasingly loud accusations that his administration may have allowed the tragic events of 9/11 to occur as a pretext justifying U.S. expansion of armed conflict around the world to allegedly wage war on terrorism. Curiously, most of the “outrageous conspiracy theories” to which he refers incorporate some extremely sound science, logic and witness testimony where the official version is lacking in those critical areas. The following is a rather clever and immensely sarcastic approach to the government’s explanation of 9/11 — which follows a pattern established by the “magic bullet theory” to explain the assassination of JFK and a Ryder truck full of fertilizer and fuel oil to explain the damage at the Murrah federal building in OK City.

      by Gerard Holmgren

      Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event there will usually be at least one ,often several wild conspiracy theories which spring up around it. “The CIA killed Hendrix”; “the Pope had John Lennon murdered”; “Hitler was half Werewolf”; “Space aliens replaced Nixon with a clone,” etc, etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation to it.

      So its hardly surprising that the events of Sept. 11, 2001, have spawned their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is — sadly — a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis.

      One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11 (and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs) is that it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they “hate our freedoms.”

      Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the Internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell.

      Normally I don’t even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories.

      These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organizing them and actually would have stopped them if it had been able. Blindly ignoring the stand down of the U.S. Air Force, the insider trading on airline stocks (linked to the CIA), the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer four planes simultaneously and fly them around U.S. airspace for nearly two hours, crashing them into important buildings, without the U.S. intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do.

      The daunting task of analysis

      The huge difficulties with such a stupid story force them to invent even more preposterous stories to distract from its core silliness, and thus the tale has escalated into a mythic fantasy of truly gargantuan proportions.

      It’s difficult to apply rational analysis to such unmitigated stupidity, but that is the task which I take on in this article. However, it should be noted that one of the curious characteristics of conspiracy theorists is that they effortlessly change their so called evidence in response to each aspect which is debunked. As soon as one delusion is unmasked, they simply invent another to replace it and deny that the first ever existed. Eventually, when they have turned full circle through this endlessly changing fantasy fog , they then reinvent the original delusion and deny that you ever debunked it, thus beginning the circle once more. This technique is known as “the fruit loop” and saves the conspiracy theorist from ever having to see any of their ideas through to their (ill)logical conclusions.

      The fruit loop

      According to the practitioners of the fruit loop, 19 Arabs took over the four planes by subduing the passengers and crew through the use of guns, knives, box cutters and gas, and then used electronic guidance systems which they had smuggled on board to fly the planes to their targets.

      The suspension of disbelief required for this outrageous concoction is only for the hard core conspiracy theorist. For a start, they conveniently skip over the awkward fact that there weren’t any Arabs on the planes.

      If there were, one must speculate that they somehow got on board without being filmed by any of the security cameras and without being registered on the passenger lists. But the curly question of how they are supposed to have got on board is all too mundane for the exciting world of the conspiracy theorist.

      Who’s on first?

      With vague mumblings that they must have been using false ID (but never specifying which IDs they are alleged to have used, or how these were traced to their real identities), they quickly bypass this problem, to relate exciting and sinister tales about how some of the fictitious fiends were actually searched before boarding because they looked suspicious.

      However, as inevitably happens with any web of lies, this simply paints them into an even more difficult corner. How are they supposed to have gotten on board with all that stuff if they were searched? And if they used gas in a confined space, they would have been affected themselves unless they also had masks in their luggage.

      “Excuse me sir, why do you have a boxcutter, a gun, a container of gas, a gas mask and an electronic guidance unit in your luggage?”

      “A present for your grandmother? Very well sir, on you get.”

      “Very strange,” thinks the security officer. “That’s the fourth Arabic man without an Arabic name who just got on board with a knife, gun or boxcutter and gas mask. And why does that security camera keep flicking off every time one these characters shows up? Must be one of those days I guess...”

      Asking any of these basic questions to a conspiracy theorist is likely to cause a sudden leap to the claim that we know that they were on board because they left a credit card trail for the tickets they had purchased and cars they had rented. So, if they used credit cards that identified them, how does that reconcile with the claim that they used false IDs to get on to the plane?

      But by this time, the fruit loop is in full swing, as the conspiracy theorist tries to stay one jump ahead of this annoying and awkward rational analysis. They will allege that the hijackers’ passports were found at the crash scenes. “So there!” they exalt triumphantly, their fanatical faces lighting up with that deranged look of one who has just experienced a revelation of questionable sanity.

      Hmm? So they got on board with false IDs but took their real passports with them? However, by this time the fruit loop has been completely circumnavigated, and the conspiracy theorist exclaims impatiently, “Who said anything about false IDs? We know what seats they were sitting in! Their presence is well documented!”

      And so the whole loop starts again. “Well, why aren’t they on the passenger lists?”

      “You numbskull! They assumed the identities of other passengers!” And so on...

      Finally, out of sheer fascination with this circular method of creative delusion, the rational sceptic will allow them to get away with this loop, in order to move on to the next question, and see what further delights await us in the unraveling of this marvelously stupid story.

      “Uh, how come their passports survived fiery crashes that completely incinerated the planes and all the passengers?”

      The answer of course is that its just one of those strange coincidences, those little quirks of fate that do happen from time to time. You know, like the same person winning the lottery four weeks in a row. The odds are astronomical, but these things do happen...

      This is another favourite deductive method of the conspiracy theorist. The “improbability drive,” in which they decide upon a conclusion without any evidence whatsoever to support it, and then continually speculate a series of wildly improbable events and unbelievable coincidences to support it, shrugging off the implausibility of each event with the vague assertion that sometimes the impossible happens (just about all the time in their world).

      There is a principle called “Occam’s razor” which suggests that in the absence of evidence to the contrary, the simplest explanation is most likely to be correct. Conspiracy theorists hate Occam’s razor.

      Hijacking 101

      Having for the sake of amusement, allowed them to get away with the silly story of the 19 invisible Arabs, we move on to the question of how they are supposed to have taken over the planes.

      Hijacking a plane is not an easy thing to do. Hijacking it without the pilot being able to alert ground control is nearly impossible. The pilot has only to punch in a four digit code to alert ground control to a hijacking. Unconcerned with the awkward question of plausibility, the conspiracy buffs maintain that on that Sept 11, the invisible hijackers took over the plane by the rather crude method of threatening people with boxcutters and knives, and spraying gas (after they had attached their masks, obviously), but somehow took control of the plane without the crew first getting a chance to punch in the hijacking code. Not just on one plane, but on all four. At this point in the tale, the conspiracy theorist is again forced to call upon the services of the improbability drive.

      So now that our incredibly lucky hijackers have taken control of the planes, all four pilots fly them with breathtaking skill and certainty to their fiery end — all four unflinching in their steely resolve for a swift meeting with Allah.

      Apart from their psychotic hatred of “our freedoms,” it was their fanatical devotion to Islam which enabled them to summon up the iron will to do this. Which is strange, because according to another piece of hearsay peddled by the conspiracy buffs, these guys actually went out drinking and womanizing the night before their great martyrdom, even leaving their Korans in the bar — really impeccable Islamic behavior — and then got up at 5 a.m. the next morning to pull off the greatest covert operation in history.

      This also requires us to believe that they were even clear headed enough to learn how to fly the huge planes by reading flight manuals in Arabic in the car on the way to the airport. We know this because they supposedly left the flight manuals there for us to find.

      It gets better. Their practical training had allegedly been limited to Cessnas and flight simulators, but this was no barrier to the unflinching certainty with which they took over the planes and skillfully guided them to their doom.

      If they are supposed to have done their flight training with these tools, which would be available just about anywhere in the world, its not clear why they would have decided to risk blowing their cover to U.S. intelligence services by doing the training in Florida, rather than somewhere in the Middle East, but such reasoning is foreign to the foggy world of the conspiracy theorist, too trapped in the constant rotation of the mental fruit loop to make their unsubstantiated fabrications seem even semi-believable.

      A Ryder truck with wings?

      Having triumphantly established a circular delusion in support of the mythical Arabs, the conspiracy theorist now confronts the difficult question of why there’s nothing left of the planes. Anybody who has seen the endlessly replayed footage of the second plane going into the WTC will realize that the plane was packed with explosives. Planes do not and cannot blow up into nothing in that manner when they crash.

      Did the mythical Arabs also haul a huge heap of explosives on board, and manage to deploy them in such a manner that they went off in the exact instant of the crash, completely vapourizing the plane?

      This is a little difficult even for the conspiracy theorist, who at this point decides that its easier to invent new laws of physics in order to keep the delusion rolling along.

      There weren’t any explosives. It wasn’t an inside job. The plane blew up into nothing from its exploding fuel load! Remarkable!

      Sluggishly combustible jet fuel, which is basically kerosene and which burns at a maximum temperature of around 800 C, has suddenly taken on the qualities of a ferociously explosive demolition agent, vapourizing 65 tons of aircraft into a puff of smoke. Never mind that a plane of that size contains around 15 tons of steel and titanium, of which even the melting points are about double that of the maximum combustion temperature of kerosene — let alone the boiling point — which is what would be required to vapourize a plane. And then there’s about 50 tons of aluminium to be accounted for.

      In excess of 15 pounds of metal was vapourized for each gallon of kerosene.

    • For the conspiracy theorist, such inconvenient facts are vaguely dismissed as “mumbo jumbo.”

      This convenient little phrase is their answer to just about anything factual or logical. Like a conjurer pulling a rabbit out of a hat, they suddenly become fanatically insistent about the devastating explosive qualities of kerosene, something hitherto completely unknown to science, but just discovered by them, at that very moment. Blissfully ignoring the fact that never before or since in aviation history has a plane vapourized into nothing from an exploding fuel load, the conspiracy theorist relies upon Hollywood images, where the effects are always larger than life, and certainly larger than the intellects of these cretins.

      “Its a well known fact that planes blow up into nothing on impact,” they state with pompous certainty. “Watch any Bruce Willis movie.”

      “Care to provide any documented examples? If it’s a well known fact, then presumably this well known fact springs from some kind of documentation — other than Bruce Willis movies?”

      At this point the mad but cunning eyes of the conspiracy theorist will narrow as they sense the corner that they have backed themselves into, and plan their escape by means of another stunning backflip.

      “Ah, but planes have never crashed into buildings before, so there’s no way of telling,” they counter with a sly grin.

      Well, actually planes have crashed into buildings before (and since). None of them vapourized into almost nothing.

      “But not big planes, with that much fuel,” they shriek in hysterical denial.

      Or that much metal to vapourize.

      “Yes but not hijacked planes!”

      “Are you suggesting that whether the crash is deliberate or accidental affects the combustion qualities of the fuel?”

      “Now you’re just being silly.”

      Although collisions with buildings are rare, planes frequently crash into mountains, streets, other aircraft, nosedive into the ground, or have bombs planted aboard them, and don’t vapourize into nothing. What’s so special about a tower that’s mostly glass? But by now, the conspiracy theorist has once again sailed happily around the fruit loop. “Its a well documented fact that planes explode into nothing on impact.”

      Effortlessly weaving back and forth between the position that its a “well known fact” and that “its never happened before, so we have nothing to compare it to,” the conspiracy theorist has now convinced themselves (if not too many other people) that the WTC plane was not loaded with explosives, and that the instant vapourization of the plane in a massive fireball was the same as any other plane crash you might care to mention. Round and round the fruit loop...

      The “new math”

      But the hurdles which confront the conspiracy theorist are many, and they are now forced to implement even more creative uses for the newly discovered shockingly destructive qualities of kerosene. They have to explain how the Arabs also engineered the elegant vertical collapse of both the WTC towers, and for this awkward fact the easiest counter is to simply deny that it was a controlled demolition, and claim that the buildings collapsed from fire caused by the burning kerosene.

      For this, its necessary to sweep aside the second law of thermodynamics and propose kerosene, which is not only impossibly destructive, but also recycles itself for a second burning in violation of the law of degradation of energy.

      You see, it not only consumed itself in a sudden catastrophic fireball, vapourizing a 65-ton plane into nothing, but then came back for a second go, burning at 2000 degrees C for another hour at the impact point, melting the skyscraper’s steel like butter. And, while it was doing all this, it also poured down the elevator shafts, starting fires all through the building.

      When I was at school there was a little thing called the entropy law which suggests that a given portion of fuel can only burn once, something which is readily observable in the real world, even for those who didn’t make it to junior high school science. But this is no problem for the conspiracy theorist. Gleefully, they claim that a few thousand gallons of kerosene is enough to:

      1. completely vapourize a 65 ton aircraft;

      2. have enough left over to burn ferociously enough for over an hour at the impact point to melt steel ( melting point about double the maximum combustion temperature of the fuel );

      3. still have enough left over to pour down the elevator shafts and start similarly destructive fires all throughout the building.

      This kerosene really is remarkable stuff! How chilling to realize that those kerosene heaters we had in the house when I was a kid were deadly bombs, just waiting to go off. One false move and the entire street might have been vapourized. And never again will I take kerosene lamps out camping. One moment you’re there innocently holding the lamp, the next moment — kapow! Vapourized into nothing along with the rest of the camp site, and still leaving enough of the deadly stuff to start a massive forest fire.

      These whackos are actually claiming that the raging inferno allegedly created by the miraculously recycling, and impossibly hot burning kerosene melted or at least softened the steel supports of the skyscraper. Oblivious to the fact that the smoke coming from the WTC was black, which indicates an oxygen starved fire and, therefore, not particularly hot, they trumpet an alleged temperature in the building of 2000 C , without a shred of evidence to support this curious suspension of the laws of physics.

      Not content with this ludicrous garbage, they then contend that as the steel frames softened, they came straight down instead of buckling and twisting and falling sideways.

      Laws be damned

      Since they’ve already re-engineered the combustion qualities of jet fuel, violated the second law of thermodynamics, and redefined the structural properties of steel, why let a little thing like the laws of gravity get in the way?

      The tower fell in a time almost identical to that of a free-falling object, dropped from that height, meaning that it’s physically impossible for it to have collapsed by the method of the top floors smashing through the lower floors.

      But, according to the conspiracy theorists, the laws of gravity were temporarily suspended on the morning of Sept 11. It appears that the evil psychic power of those dreadful Arabs knew no bounds. Even after they were dead, they were able, by the power of their evil spirits, to force down the tower at a speed physically impossible under the laws of gravity, had it been meeting any resistance from fireproofed steel structures originally designed to resist many tons of hurricane force wind — as well as the impact of a Boeing passenger jet straying off course.

      Clearly, these conspiracy nuts never did their science homework at school, but did become extremely adept at inventing tall tales for why they couldn’t complete their assignments.

      “Muslim terrorists stole my notes, sir”

      “No miss, the kerosene heater blew up and vapourized everything in the street, except for my passport.”

      “You see sir, the school bus was hijacked by Arabs who destroyed my homework because they hate our freedoms.”

      Or perhaps they misunderstood the term “creative science” and mistakenly thought that coming up with such rubbish was in fact, their science homework.

      The ferocious heat generated by this ghastly kerosene was, according to the conspiracy theorists, the reason why so many of the WTC victims can’t be identified. DNA is destroyed by heat. (Although 2000 C isn’t really required, 100 degrees C will generally do the job).

      This is quite remarkable, because according to the conspiracy theorist, the nature of DNA suddenly changes if you go to a different city.

      Not all DNA created equal

      That’s right! If you are killed by an Arab terrorist in NY, your DNA will be destroyed by such temperatures. But if you are killed by an Arab terrorist in Washington DC, your DNA will be so robust that it can survive temperatures which completely vapourize a 65-ton aircraft.

      You see, these loonies have somehow concocted the idea that the missile which hit the pentagon was not a missile at all, but one of the hijacked planes. And to prove this unlikely premise, they point to a propaganda statement from the Bush regime, which rather stupidly claims that all but one of the people aboard the plane were identified from the site by DNA testing, even though nothing remains of the plane.

      “The plane was vapourized by the fuel tank explosion,” maintain these space loonies, but only one of the people inside it were not identified by DNA testing.

      So there we have it. The qualities of DNA are different, depending upon which city you’re in, or perhaps depending upon which fairy story you’re trying to sell at any particular time.

      Missiles have wings, too

      This concoction about one of the hijacked planes hitting the Pentagon really is a howler. For those not familiar with the layout of the Pentagon, it consists of five rings of building, each with a space in between. Each ring of building is about 30 to 35 feet deep, with a similar amount of open space between it and the next ring.

      The object which penetrated the Pentagon went in at about a 45 degree angle, punching a neat, circular hole about 12 feet in diameter through three rings (six walls).

      A little later a section of wall about 65 feet wide collapsed in the outer ring. Since the plane, which the conspiracy theorists claim to be responsible for the impact, had a wing span of 125 feet and a length of 155 feet and there was no wreckage of the plane, either inside or outside the building, and the lawns outside were still smooth and green enough to play golf on, this crazy delusion is clearly a physical impossibility.

      But hey, we’ve already disregarded the combustion qualities of jet fuel, the normal properties of common building materials, the properties of DNA, the laws of gravity and the second law of thermodynamics, so what the hell — why not throw in a little spatial impossibility as well?

      I would have thought that the observation that a solid object cannot pass through another solid object without leaving a hole at least as big as itself is reasonably sound science. But to the conspiracy theorist, this is “mumbo jumbo.” It conflicts with the delusion that they’re hooked on, so it “must be wrong” although trying to get them to explain exactly how it could be wrong is a futile endeavour.

      Conspiracy theorists fly into a curious panic whenever the Pentagon missile is mentioned. They nervously maintain that the plane was vapourized by it’s exploding fuel load and point to the WTC crash as evidence of this behavior (That is a wonderful fruit loop).

      Like an insect which has just been sprayed, running back and forth in its last mad death throes, they first argue that the reason the hole is so small is that the plane never entered the wall, having blown up outside, and then suddenly backflip to explain the 250 feet deep missile hole by saying that the plane disappeared all the way into the building, and then blew up inside the building (even though the building shows no sign of such damage).

      As for what happened to the wings, here’s where they get really creative. The wings snapped off and folded into the fuselage which then carried them into the building, which then closed up behind the plane like a piece of meat.

      When it suits them, they’ll also claim that the plane slid in on its belly, (ignoring the undamaged lawn) while at the same time citing alleged witnesses to the plane diving steeply into the building from an “irrecoverable angle.”

      How they reconcile these two scenarios as being compatible is truly a study in applied stupidity.

      Epilogue

      Once they get desperate enough, you can be sure that the UFO conspiracy stuff will make an appearance. The Arabs are in league with the Martians. Space aliens snatched the remains of the Pentagon plane and fixed most of the hole in the wall, just to confuse people. They gave the Arabs invisibility pills to help get them onto the planes. Little green men were seen talking to Bin Laden a few weeks prior to the attacks.

      As the nation gears up to impeach the traitor Bush, and stop his perpetual oil war, it’s not helpful to have these idiots distracting from the process by spreading silly conspiracy theories about mythical Arabs, stories which do nothing but play into the hands of the extremist Bush regime.

      At a less serious time, we might tolerate such crackpots with amused detachment, but they need to understand that the treachery that was perpetrated on Sept. 11, and the subsequent war crimes committed in “retaliation” are far too serious for us to allow such frivolous self indulgence to go unchallenged.

      Those who are truly addicted to conspiracy delusions should find a more appropriate outlet for their paranoia.

      Its time to stop loony conspiracy theories about Sept 11.

      Copyright Gerard Holmgren. Jan 2003 debunker@hotmail.com

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  • Must see!!safe site. http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692/ denver colorado always did give me the creeps when traveling though it. now i see why. What on earth is going on at Denver International Airport ?
    Or should we be asking what is going on UNDERGROUND there ?
    Here are some bizarre guerrilla-cam shots from Denver International Airport:

    A narrative is forthcoming detailing each picture below...

    ALL of the bizarre photos below are from our guerrila cam inside Denver International
    Airport and fellow anonymous netizens that have been there collecting intelligence...
    What on earth is this art work all about, will keep you posted... Check back often
    as we add details and ASK questions !
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  • People of America support their government in foreign policy which is most of the times wrong toward foreign countries and than they (Americans) are surprised when it happens something like 11. september.... One of those countries where America commited crime is Serbia. Ask your government why did they bomb Serbs? How many bomb did they throw on Serbia? What kind of bombs were thrown, exactly? It was uranium, plutonium and cassete bombs, and who knows what else was in those bombs... and what are the after effects? When every average American will start to question the decisions of their government, maybe than the average people in the rest of the world will hate less the American nation.. And doesn’t matter how strong USA is, Americans can’t rule the whole rest of the world, neither can live self-contained away from the rest of the world.

    • Evil or Stupid; it Doesn’t Matter.

      Well it does a bit, and it’s obviously a bit of both, but it’s best to stay away from that whole ’evil’ debate thing, -it’ll only end up with the ’goodness of our Lord’ etc, Lucifer, etc

      The Religion bit is a decoy for the lost.

      Its more what motivates that small clique of people to commit such world shaping, destructive acts, resultig in massive loss of human life. Isn’t it is to preserve the opulent lifestyle of a select few humans ? People who will do anything to preserve real power, and wealth.

      How do ’Elections’ and ’free speech’ change that status quo though?

    • Satan and his children want civil war in Iraq and regular war in Iran and with more torture pictures coming out, some with women in them, God forbid, they may get what they want! No, him evil, Americans stupid! Peace. Jaye, NJ USA

    • i like the idea of shorter terms one year maximum, no possibility of ever serving more than once, and repealing every law except for magna carta , bill of rights and constitution, then randomly selecting people from a real random drawing of all names eligible who register to vote, that way if you dont have the desire to vote , you wouldnt ever have to worry about serving your one year term, i know this wouldnt be perfect , but how could random do any worse than the totally corrupt personality contest vote we are given to choose from when all the candidates are prepicked for us/ to me this feels like something better than those who choose to run , which usually are from two basic molds , greedy and power hungry or foolish enough to think they have the capability to lead

    • I hope you will see who is stupid, is it George Bush living lavishly in 10 stars hotels or the American Public who pays through their noise by the taxations and by Huuman war fuels ( Bloods). now I let u to see who is stupid, and who is getting the burden of this tyrant?
      please read this Article to find out :

      Killing Us Left and Right —•— 2006 by Joanna Francis

      http://www.crescentandcross.com/index.php?page=articles&author=joanna_francis

      and:
      The Emperor Was Wearing A Yarmulke —•— Sept. 28, 2005 by Barbra-renee Brighenti

      http://www.crescentandcross.com/index.php?page=articles&author=barbra-renee_brighenti
      God bless America, Bless you.

    • watch this it is a must:

      The Shadow Puppet’s Master —•— Oct. 31st, 2005 by Barbra-renee Brighenti

      http://www.crescentandcross.com/index.php?page=articles&author=barbra-renee_brighenti&subpage1=shadow_puppets_master
      Good luck for American Pupetory Democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Good idea. The problem we have at the moment is that the people that control our ’democracy’ , choose the people that administer the mechanisms of its electioneering.

      As long as that remains in place, the same clique of people will continue to dominate. Doesn’t matter if its Republican or Democrat, all you know is that Republican will be a more austere domestic version, whose foreign policies are more reckless.

      An independent forum of validators, at the very least, is required. One that, as the previous poster stated was appointed on a constant rotational basis, and could give credence to the Constitutions notion of equality amongst US citizens.

      As Americans how could they argue against it ?......but I expect they’d find a way.

    • A lottery for representation in government is a great idea....our current form of "representation" does not represent the citizens and we all know it.....who thinks that their "representive" really represents their best interests????? No one of course, we all know that our form of representative" government means that big business bribes the officials and the officials only represent big business.

      Throw the crooks out and let true democracy in.

  • I agree with the majority of what you are saying in the article. America is certainly heading towards another crisis to fool the American public into giving up on their Bill of rights.

    I do not think though that their will be a "lifelong leader" we are all agreed i think that Bush is a puppet and a temporary one. Why change this formula. By keeping up with the farce of the presidential election which is no more than a distraction by the real power holders it keeps the illision of Democracy alive. Most are now aware that we live in a post democratic state be it in America or England. With the continued illision martial law won’t be needed to kill the bill of rights. Another terrorist incident will have the people dancing to the evil doers tune and that will be that. All nations are slowly going towards a single currency like it or not. Actually the way they are doing it is rather clever. All nations are unhappy with the EURO as it destroys their national identity. But banks are eagerly persuading people to just use cards (chip and pin) it is called here in England. When it becomes compulsory which it surely will we will have a single currency. It will just be numbers on a computer database. Then from there world goverment. The EU is simply a testing ground to see how easy it is to manipulate the nations of europe. The great thing about it is that Countries leaders can simply blame problems on Brussels rather than admitting to the fact that they are hearding this in.

    The reason why i brought this in to the reply is simply this. Everybody better wake up the heat is currently on America but the illuminati that control Bush are not just out for America they are trying to control everybody in every country.

    It does not matter what you call the enemy (currently AL-QUEIDA) this is in my opinion a made up cell that has little or no relevance. The point of the war against terrorism is that it never ends. Which is why i guess you feel that a permanent leader will be required. But i think you are forgetting how fickle the American people are (The buck stops with me is essentially the presidents job!) so every now and then he needs to go so they can put there hands up and say it won’t happen with this president he is there to serve you and won’t be corrupt like the last one and the farce of another rigged election campaign happens again where the most connected and ultimately already chosen man wins by a landslide or by a narrow margin depending on how the world bank and the illuminati decide to play it that year.

    Sooner or later America is going to have to deal with the problems it has dumped on the world. Economically it can’t survive for much longer without further expansion and conflict like Iraq. Iran is on the cards and is probably next on its agenda. Cheap imports from China can only hide its financial problems for so long. 50 billion dollars a week are being flooded into America. Hyperinflation is in the post and America does not have the gold to stem the tide as most of the gold in America does not even belong to them as most belongs to Saudi investors and the goldsmiths. When the crash happens and it will. It will take down not just America but most of Europe as well. THE NEXT NOTE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
    DO NOT BE FOOLED BY A CRASH WHICH I EXPECT TO COINCIDE WITH ANY NEW ATTACK ON AMERICA OR SOON AFTER. IT WILL OF HELP THEM REMOVE MORE RIGHTS. BE AWARE OF THIS THOUGH WHEN A CRASH HAPPENS SAY IF ONLY 1 MILLION WAS IN CIRCULATION AT THE END OF THE CRASH 1 MILLION STILL EXISTS JUST IN FAR FEWER HANDS. SO WHEN THEY TELL YOU ALL HAVE LOST IN THE CRASH DO NOT LISTEN. TRUST ME THE FIRST TO KNOW AND INSTIGATE THE CRASH WILL BE THE WORLD BANK. SECOND THE PRIVATE BANK OF AMERICA CALLED THE FEDERAL RESERVE WHICH IS A PRIVATE FOR PROFIT COMPANY NOT AN AMERCAN BANK.THEN THE BANK OF ENGLAND WHICH IS JUST AS BAD. BOTH OF THESE RUN BY THE ROTHCHILDS.

    HAVE A NICE DAY!

    Yep i am pretty angry with the world of Bush and Blair but it has been coming for some time just a pity its in my lifetime because i wish the world was not run by a bunch of evil twisted men who just think of themselves and screw everyone else. I am not even going to mention Depleted Uranium as that just makes my blood boil.

    Take care all

    Danny from England

    Leader of the ANTI BLAIR AND BUSH FOUNDATION

    • "The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America" It is available at google and look extremely interesting. The 1st part have problems of sound but the rest are ok , may be my computer? . You can watch it at:

      The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - Part1

      The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - Part2

      The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - Part3

      Please let me know what you think. And let the world knows the crime of last centuray, and how we are sheeped to be slave in the 21st century .
      Amsaar Jakyelisland

    • It doesn`t take much brain to realise that all these self-styled american "leaders" are mere apologists for a minority cabal of pro-abrahamic wankers.

      Is there any mention of america in the bible? Does the koran speak of France? Does the torah acknowledge the reality of the canadian tundra????

      Of course not, all three books are just ancient manure, spread thinly, and enforced with militarism.

      The real purpose of american politics is to maintain the moneyed and powerful, as they live in cosseted isolation.

      Do they care about poverty...yes...as long as there is plenty of it. (It keeps the commodity prices low.)

      Disease... they are spreading it as fast as they can. (helps boulster profits at big pharma.)

      Violent conflict... As often as possible. (ditto the profits of the military machine.)

      Wake up america,....... and dump these fraudsters.

    • I would like to ask you what do u care about, and what u have done or doing about it?
      where is yr brain, let see some of yr brians releases?

    • Great post Danny! You’re right in many aspects. I remember Che Guevara talking about how democracy in America was simply an illusion used to stem the tide of revolution. Unlike many other nations, where the choice is submission or rebellion, Americans have been cajoled into thinking that if they are not happy with the current regime they can always "throw the bums out" in the next election. The problem is that all you bring in is the same set of bums with different names.
      Take the election of 2004, where the Republicans took over the Congress because Americans were disillusioned with the policies of the Democrats. Yet the corruption has not changed. In fact it has gotten worse. But while Clinton faced impeachment for a sexual affair, Bush has committed treason by revealing classified information, by using the American military to profit his and his cronies financial interests, and by basically selling out the nation to the highest bidder. Yet somehow these are not impeachable offenses!!
      One advantage, if the European Union grows any courage, is it could actually function as a stop-gap on America’s arrogant belief that it can control the world. Of course Bush lapdogs like the gutless coward Tony Blair would have to be run out of office first. What the rest of the world is facing is nothing less than complete hegemony by the Bush dictatorship, as Hoffman often calls it. The choice is going to become the revolutionary cry, "Would you rather die on your feet, or live on your knees?"

    • Yeah it was a good post Danny. I’m from England also, and when doing my politics degree I had to fill an empty option, and chose ’’The Policy making Process’’ in year 3. Very dry, and laborious except for a couple of eye openers.

      One was that the actual policies and direction of the British government are instigated by Whitehall Civil servants. Around 2000 that are unelected, and accountable to the Crown, the head of which is the Queen. The government of the day are just the mouthpiece and add a few tweaks and minor alterations.

      We also learnt that the alleged ’Special Relationship’ with the US is ficticious. A myth that is spun out by the media every now and then. The reality is, the UK jumps when Washington says. Other countries are under the illusion they have a ’Special Relationship’ with the US. It makes their governments ’decisions’ seem autonymous, and not spineless toadies to their populace.

      I’m not for revolution and violent overthrow, (too old now), and all positive changes for the better in recent history for ordinary people, have shown reform as the most successful. Equality for women, gays etc. There really needs to be an overhaul of the electoral system and a real democratic process in situ, rather than the hijacking and use of the term ’democracy’ that they love to portray, At present it is a complete charade that perpetuates an obscene rich clique and death and poverty for the majority.

    • Thankyou, i am glad i am not the only one who feels like this. Up until about 2 years ago i was blind to all of the problems and simply going along with the polititically correct stance that we are programmed with. But the internet has opened my eyes to what is really going on. I don’t even concentrate on the political nonsense anymore as it seems to me that it is all just a smokescreen to keep us distracted from the real game plan. The illision of the democracy is very apparent but the real goal and what people don’t understand is money. They think capitalism is good for everybody but the fact is for capitalism to work you will have to have very poor people supporting a minority of very rich people.

      Unfortunately communism is a great idea but poor in practice as with power comes corruption and ultimately is no better than capitalism as seen is Russia.

      The impending crash i think is coming will consolidate the world banks power even further as they control when a crash occurs and so has inside info and can make huge profits about it. They are the real world leaders and our governments are simply puppets to their master. The world bank sells arms to both sides of a conflict and instigates wars and increases profits again. I would recommend reading:I want the world plus 5% this gives you a really good insight into the money machine.

      Take care

      Danny

    • Just a footnote on Communism. In Russia it was just state Capitalism, and as an entity it could never work, unless it was a global phenomenum. The word now is synonymous with defeatism, it raises the hackles, and seems old hat.

      There was corruption at the highest level, and with trade embargos from the West the people were deprived of advancement, goods, and eventually food. The US ruling clique were terrified of its concept, from McCarthy witch hunts, installing South American dictators to napalming kids in Vietnam.
      Now its gone the rich elite create ’terrorism’ as the new bogeyman, in order to continue their adventures abroad, and perpetuate the stream of obscene wealth for a few.

      Maybe you’re right about an imminent ’World Crash’, but you can be sure the ruling cabal and their wealthy backers won’t suffer and their lifestyles unaffected. It just means more austerity for the majority.

    • "Would you rather die on your feet, or live on your knees?"

      Some one said that, I will ask you have no option, which one democratically u choose?
      For Danny, Have you watched this video?
      It is highly recommended for all please watch it you will become to know where we all being deceited and cheated:

      Please see this historical event of the banking, details of Fractional reserve Banking, Just see it for yr self, and from horses mouth, how crime committed against humanity?
      Historical shocking facts we r not allowed to know, c & let be seen please
      the audio on the first part was not working normally. Here is a new link:

      The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - Part1 (Fixed Audio)

      The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - Part2

      The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - Part3

      Please let me know what you think

      you will find that the Fed reserve is more dangerous that then any standing threatening Army?
      They have destroyed the four pillars you need in yr life:
      1) Religion
      2) Race
      3) Family
      4) National identity (replaced by the banker to cosmopolitans) i.e. London is one? But can you ask the Bankers to make Tel Aviv, or Java or Haifa as cosmopolitan like London; you will be labeled as ant Semitist?
      Any pillar left if we loose or lost the four, the roof will copaps on our head, thats why the gentleman has said:

      "Would you rather die on your feet, or live on your knees?"

      Historical shocking facts we r not allowed to know
      This is a loose change, u will like to watch this, but I would like u to see the money master, please Dr let me know if u could not open any one, have a pleasant day.

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848

      Caryleisland

    • have you seen 9 11 on trials and proved guilty?
      it worth watching the trails. her is the address of wing tv main page:

      http://www.wingtv.net/index.html

      9 11 on trail:

      http://www.wingtv.net/911ontrial.doc/911ontrialindex.html

      if u can not watch all try to watch:
      Archived Witness Testimony
      Introduction
      Opening Statement
      and:
      Closing Argument.
      It is backed with scientific concrete evidence, impossible to refute in the court

      You can watch this passed by Mr,Tom:

      The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - Part1 (Fixed Audio)

      The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - Part2

      The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - Part3

      It is shocking worth to let all people know how this could happened to America, we not only killed left and right, but robbed left and right including centre.
      Infact we are 21st centurys SLAVE, YES SIR SLAVE, ok slaves?
      You will come to that concultion after watching it.

      a video you and yr friends should not miss, it is an eye openning. You will know that any standing army is less dangerouse than the Federal Reserve. I hope America start to bark on the right TREE.
      Amsaar

    • Hey there Caryleisland

      Yes i have seen the shocking evidence of deceit in the money masters videos. It really opened my eyes to the danger of the money system. Essentially Governments are there to distract us from the real danger. While we whine and whinge about the corrupt governments in the world the real danger is barely given a glance by the majority of the world who are at best apathetic or oblivious to the real scheme of the money changers.

      The media are paid by them so of course do not give this any coverage. The internet is our only hope of a truly uncencored information line to the truth. But all beware there are a lot of spam sites that claim to prove conspiracies but are actually just out for themselves and use information to their on ends. One such example is Alex Jones of Infowars.com. Whilst i have no doubt some of what he says is true he is just out to profit from all the conspiracies and is not a true warrior for truth.

      Always look for the truth in sites but be on your guard. This is the problem we truth seekers face.

      One movie that i would recommend is ILLUMINAZI this will give you a better idea of the danger we face from the bush administration and his connection to a long thought destryed regime.

      Best of luck to all truth seekers out there. Down with the moneychangers!!!!

      Danny

    • You are dead right sir,
      See Alex J caught red handed by wingtv :
      Main page

      http://www.wingtv.net/index.html

      The Alternative Media Speaks Out:
      Jeff Rense & Alex Jones Censorship

      tp://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/censorshipaltmedia.html

      in the same page see:

      Rense & Alex Jones: Caught Red-Handed

      John is caught red handed on censorship, these mortgaged media must be exposed:it is our duty to do so.
      I think the Bankers too preparing alternative monarchy, when this system collapse they have like Alex and Dylan of the loose change will accepted by the public. The same game happing in front our noses, the Euro is a fake competitor of Dollar, it belongs to the same group, it is a controlled competitive currency, so no one else comes up with real one.
      Just see how the bankers in distress when Iran announced to open an oil bourse, that is real danger to bankers, so they rally behind each other to destroy the coming bourse even its in Euro. Some one might ask if dollar melt away, it will be good for Euro. No sir the Banker will loose and to protect their interest they will do what ever necessary to stop fall of Dollar. Do you know if Dollar goes and we have USA note it will be blessing to the American and the world?
      There will be very little tax
      The debt will disappear within one year
      The deficit will be from the history
      So all these are the crime of the Bankers, I wonder when we can stop these crime, 9 11 was a drop in the ocean of the history of THE MONEY MASTER)
      W Wilson the USA president said I betrayed my country, can any one ask to home?

  • You are dead right sir,
    See Alex J caught red handed by wingtv :
    Main page

    http://www.wingtv.net/index.html

    The Alternative Media Speaks Out:
    Jeff Rense & Alex Jones Censorship

    tp://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/censorshipaltmedia.html

    in the same page see:

    Rense & Alex Jones: Caught Red-Handed

    John is caught red handed on censorship, these mortgaged media must be exposed:it is our duty to do so.
    I think the Bankers too preparing alternative monarchy, when this system collapse they have like Alex and Dylan of the loose change will accepted by the public. The same game happing in front our noses, the Euro is a fake competitor of Dollar, it belongs to the same group, it is a controlled competitive currency, so no one else comes up with real one.
    Just see how the bankers in distress when Iran announced to open an oil bourse, that is real danger to bankers, so they rally behind each other to destroy the coming bourse even its in Euro. Some one might ask if dollar melt away, it will be good for Euro. No sir the Banker will loose and to protect their interest they will do what ever necessary to stop fall of Dollar. Do you know if Dollar goes and we have USA note it will be blessing to the American and the world?
    There will be very little tax
    The debt will disappear within one year
    The deficit will be from the history
    So all these are the crime of the Bankers, I wonder when we can stop these crime, 9 11 was a drop in the ocean of the history of THE MONEY MASTER)
    W Wilson the USA president said I betrayed my country, can any one ask to home?

  • "There are none so hopelessly enslaved as those who think that they are free."

  • do we know how much the desabled will cost us , any clue?
    just look at these picture?

    These picture Bush avoid american to see
    achievement in Iraq

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article137035.html

    These are crime the criminals should and must be punshed, will they in a democracy?

  • i’m sorry but you’re wrong. this family has been a network within the u.s. for most of the 20th century. it has roots and W. is their most recent representative. although he may be evidently not the quickest wit in washington you’re kidding yourself if you think that
    he’s not aware of the family-oligarchial institution that gave him his distinct position in politics and society. the smart ones play stupid and fool the foolish.
    p.s. he’s definitely evil.
    John K.