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From my home, I saw what the ’war on terror’ meant

by Open-Publishing - Sunday 16 July 2006
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Edito Wars and conflicts International Robert Fisk

By Robert Fisk

All night I heard the jets, whispering high above the Mediterranean. It lasted for hours, little fireflies nthat were watching Beirut, waiting for dawn perhaps, because it was then that they descended.

They came first to the little village of Dweir near Nabatiya in southern Lebanon where an Israeli plane dropped a bomb on to the home of a Shia Muslim cleric.

He was killed. So was his wife. So were eight of his children. One was decapitated. All they could find of a baby was its head and torso which a young villager brandished in fury in front of the cameras. Then the
planes visited another home in Dweir and disposed of a family of seven.

It was a brisk start to Day Two of Israel’s latest "war on terror", a conflict that uses some of the same language - and a few of the same lies - as George Bush’s larger "war on terror". For just as we "degraded" Iraq - in 1991 as well as 2003 - so yesterday it was Lebanon’s turn to be "degraded".

That means not only physical death but economic death and it arrived at Beirut’s gleaming new £300m international airport just before 6am as passengers
prepared to board flights to London and Paris.

From my home, I heard the F-16 which suddenly appeared
over the newest runway and fired a spread of rockets
into it, ripping up 20 metres of tarmac and blasting
tons of concrete into the air in a massive explosion
before a Hetz-class Israeli gunboat fired on to the
other runways.

Two of Middle East Airlines’ new Airbuses were left
untouched but, within minutes, the airport was deserted
as passengers fled back to their homes and hotels.

The flight indicators told the whole story: Paris no
flight, London, no flight, Cairo, no flight, Dubai, no
flight, Baghdad - from the cauldron into the fire if
anyone had chosen to take it - no flight. Someone was
playing "Don’t Cry For Me, Argentina" over the public
address system.

Then the Israelis went for the Hizbollah television
station, Al-Manar, clipping off its antenna with a
missile but failing to put the station off air. That
might be a more understandable target - "Manar", after
all, broadcasts Hizbollah propaganda. But was it really
designed to find or recover the two Israeli soldiers
captured on Wednesday? Or to take revenge for the nine
Israelis killed in the same incident, one of the
blackest days in recent Israeli Army history although
not as black as it was for the 36 Lebanese civilians
killed in the previous 24 hours.

An Israeli woman was also killed by a Hizbollah rocket
fired into Israel. So, in the grim exchange rate of
these wretched conflicts, one Israeli death equals just
over three Lebanese; it’s a fair bet the exchange rate
will grow more murderous.

And by afternoon, the threats had grown worse. Israel
would not "sit idly by". It ordered the entire
population of the southern suburbs - home to
Hizbollah’s headquarters - to flee their homes by 3pm.

Save for a few hundred families, they stubbornly
refused to leave. Everywhere in Lebanon could now be a
target, the Israelis announced. If Israel bombed the
suburbs, the Hizbollah roared, it would fire its long-
range Katyushas at the Israeli city of Haifa. One of
them had apparently already damaged an Israeli air base
at Miron, a fact concealed at the time by Israeli
censors.

It certainly frightened Lebanon’s Gulf tourists who
packed the roads from Bhamdoun in their 4x4s, fleeing
for the safety of Syria and flights home from Damascus.
Another little economic death for Lebanon.

But what did all this mean, this ranting and
threatening? I sat at home in the early afternoon,
going through my files of Israeli statements. It turned
out that Israel had threatened not to "sit idly by" (or
occasionally "stand idly by") in Lebanon on at least
six occasions in the past 26 years, most famously when
the late Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin promised
that he would not "stand idly by" while Christians were
threatened here in 1980 - only to withdraw his soldiers
and leave the Christians to their bloody fate three
years later.

The Lebanese are always left to their fate. Israel’s
Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, says he holds the Lebanese
government responsible for the attacks on the border
that breached the international frontier on Wednesday.

But Mr Olmert and everyone knows that the weak and
fractious government of the Lebanese Prime Minister
Fouad Siniora isn’t capable of controlling a single
militiaman, let alone the Hizbollah.

Yet wasn’t this the same set of Lebanese political
leaders congratulated by the United States last year
for its democratic elections and its freedom from
Syria? Indeed, a man who sees Bush as a friend -
perhaps "saw" is a better word - is Saad Hariri, son of
the ex-Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri who built
much of the infrastructure that Israel is now
destroying and whose murder last year - by Syrian
agents? - supposedly outraged Mr Bush.

Yesterday morning, Saad Hariri, the son, was flying
into Beirut when America’s Israeli allies arrived to
bomb the airport. He had to turn round as his aircraft
skulked off to Cyprus for refuge.

But it was the undercurrent of terror-speak that was
particularly frightening yesterday.

Lebanon was an "axis of terror", Israel was "fighting
terror on all fronts". During the morning, I had to cut
across an interview with an Australian radio station
when an Israeli reporter stated - totally untruthfully
– that there were Iranian Revolutionary Guards in
Lebanon and that not all Syria’s troops had left.

And the reason why the Israelis had attacked Beirut’s
infinitely secure and carefully monitored airport, used
by diplomats and European leaders, a facility as safe
as any in Europe? Because, so said the Israelis, it was
"a central hub for the transfer of weapons and supplies
to the Hizbollah terrorist organisation." If the
Israelis really want to know where that hub is, they
should be looking at Damascus airport. But they do know
that, don’t they?

And so it is terror, terror, terror again and Lebanon
is once more to be depicted as the mythic terror centre
of the Middle East along, I suppose with Gaza. And the
West Bank. And Syria. And, of course, Iraq. And Iran.
And Afghanistan. And who knows where next?

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article1174289.ece

Forum posts

  • The "war on terror" is a facade to hide the imperialist desires of the Bush administration. It doesn’t exist.

    Eternal war against an unseen, unidentifiable enemy = "war on terror"

    THAT holds no logic but ENORMOUS PROFIT

  • It must be interesting being a journalist as you are - able to make any comment, critisicm and even give your learned direction to any situation - and all without accountability!

    You are never voted for, You are never investigated, followed or photographed!

    But you are a scribe who can say what ever he wants, whether right or wrong, whether true or false - who is there to judge your comment?

    Men in your position are opinionisits and not journalists. Opinionists write about opinion (often their own), journalists, at least news reports stick to the facts!

    • Stop complaining. You have a forum right here to let the world know how you feel. You seem to be saying that people like Robert Fiske have no right to voice their opinions because there is no accountability. Or, is that people like Robert Fiske voice opinions that you don’t like?

    • Please give me a break.

      Robert Fisk is a journalist who since April 2003 has carefully covered the war in Iraq.

      Never embedded with the American troops, he wrote (and writes) about the political and physical realities that the mainstream media has ignored in its clamor to show support for the President of the USA and the war on terror. If you want to know the truth about Iraq, he is a must read.

      He has his articles reported in the Guardian (London, UK,if you are interested.)

      Along with Seymour Hersh is he highly respected among those in true jounalistic circles.

    • You don’t like what Robert says? Perhaps you might prefer the The Book of the Prophet Ezekiel, Chaper Seven?

      1 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
      2 Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.
      3 Now is the end come upon thee, and I will send mine anger upon thee, and will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense upon thee all thine abominations.
      4 And mine eye shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity: but I will recompense thy ways upon thee, and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
      5 ¶ Thus saith the Lord GOD; An evil, an only evil, behold, is come.
      6 An end is come, the end is come: it watcheth for thee; behold, it is come.
      7 The morning is come unto thee, O thou that dwellest in the land: the time is come, the day of trouble is near, and not the sounding again of the mountains.
      8 Now will I shortly pour out my fury upon thee, and accomplish mine anger upon thee: and I will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense thee for all thine abominations.
      9 And mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: I will recompense thee according to thy ways and thine abominations that are in the midst of thee; and ye shall know that I am the LORD that smiteth.
      10 ¶ Behold the day, behold, it is come: the morning is gone forth; the rod hath blossomed, pride hath budded.
      11 Violence is risen up into a rod of wickedness: none of them shall remain, nor of their multitude, nor of any of theirs: neither shall there be wailing for them.
      12 The time is come, the day draweth near: let not the buyer rejoice, nor the seller mourn: for wrath is upon all the multitude thereof.
      13 For the seller shall not return to that which is sold, although they were yet alive: for the vision is touching the whole multitude thereof, which shall not return; neither shall any strengthen himself in the iniquity of his life.
      14 ¶ They have blown the trumpet, even to make all ready; but none goeth to the battle: for my wrath is upon all the multitude thereof.
      15 The sword is without, and the pestilence and the famine within: he that is in the field shall die with the sword; and he that is in the city, famine and pestilence shall devour him.
      16 But they that escape of them shall escape, and shall be on the mountains like doves of the valleys, all of them mourning, every one for his iniquity.
      17 All hands shall be feeble, and all knees shall be weak as water.
      18 They shall also gird themselves with sackcloth, and horror shall cover them; and shame shall be upon all faces, and baldness upon all their heads.
      19 They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.
      20 As for the beauty of his ornament, he set it in majesty: but they made the images of their abominations and of their detestable things therein: therefore have I set it far from them.
      21 And I will give it into the hands of the strangers for a prey, and to the wicked of the earth for a spoil; and they shall pollute it.
      22 My face will I turn also from them, and they shall pollute my secret place: for the robbers shall enter into it, and defile it.
      23 ¶ Make a chain: for the land is full of bloody crimes, and the city is full of violence.
      24 Wherefore I will bring the worst of the heathen, and they shall possess their houses: I will also make the pomp of the strong to cease; and their holy places shall be defiled.
      25 Destruction cometh; and they shall seek peace, and there shall be none.
      26 Mischief shall come upon mischief, and rumor shall be upon rumor; then shall they seek a vision of the prophet; but the law shall perish from the priest, and counsel from the ancients.
      27 The king shall mourn, and the prince shall be clothed with desolation, and the hands of the people of the land shall be troubled: I will do unto them after their way, and according to their deserts will I judge them; and they shall know that I am the LORD.

      And you may address me as Zeke, if you so wish.

    • We know all about the Israeli Cyber police. What is it now 5ooo of you that sift through blogs and websites with your special software that detects anti Israeli sentiment. Your job, to provide pro Israeli propaganda.

      Did you read your post. Are you suggesting that Mr. Fisk be followed and photographed for writing about what he sees and thinks. That’s Israel though isn’t it. Lock up people for what they think and write, or maybe bomb them from ten thousand feet with a one ton bomb while they sleep in the night. Maybe assasinate them using some dupe proxy and blame it on Syria. You used up all the worlds sympathy when you exposed yourself as selfish elitist racialists who care nothing about the lives of others.
      I’m no fan of Hezzbollahs but I do have a sense of proportion when it comes to retaliation. Dropping bombs on multi story apartment buildings full of children, knowing full well what you are doing, doesn’t qualify you for standing on the moral high ground. Your rightwing religious leaders have made it abundantly clear that western Christian morality is hindering the decimation of Hezzbollah. All of southern Lebanon is Hezzbollah. Are you going to kill a million people or make it impossible for them to live.

      Israelis are a bright people. I am dumbfounded that you cannot see you are sowing the seeds of your destruction. World opinion is turning against you. The world no longer sees you as victims but as aggressors and bullies with no respect for anybody but yourselves. You are the friends of those until you can no longer milk them for strategic value or money.

      Get over yourselves and your repulsive egotism and for once try to live in the larger world without projecting victimhood all the while closeting yourselves in your "us against them" cocoon. Can you not see you are so neurotically paranoid and dangerous that the world can’t stand you. Your whole posture has been aggressive long even before you became a state.

      Think about it. all three of the monotheistic religions were spawned from Judaism. Christ was a Jew as were almost all of the initial followers of Christ. Abraham was the progenitor of Islam. When the Babylonians and the Romans forced you out of Judea did you try to assimilate. No the countries you went to were referred to as the hosts by you and the diaspora was this aloof body or network waiting for the day that God would give the green light to return to your homeland. God never gave you the green light. Some zionists who to top it all off did not even believe in Judaism gave the green light. You forced people out of their homes and land at the end of a barrel of a gun and you forced them into refugee camps where three generations of them have lived in squalor and poverty. You on the other hand have lived quite well due in great part to the largesse of the American taxpayer. Tell me again how you are the victims. You have by some estimates the fifth or sixth most well equipped military in the world and you are the victims? You played no part in the continuum of violence in the region? It is that audacity that will be your undoing. People aren’t buying it anymore, no matter how well greased your propaganda machine is.

  • One of the most exhaustive and well-articulated books regarding the history of the middle-east currently available, is Fisk’s "The Great War For Civilisation - The Conquest of The Middle East."
    As a journalist, Robert is practically without parallel; his book is a thumping 1366 pages long, and although he tends to prevaricate a little too much about his father’s wartime experience, the remainder is gripping, educational and written with a profound sense of professionalism and objectivity. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

  • Fisk says Damascus airport is the real hub for the in and out of terrorists and supplies. So is he suggsting that Damascus airport instead by bomed, leaving Lebanon airport alone?

    What would that bring, Isaiah l7? Read Isaiah l7.

    Rowena

  • International Imperialistic-Capitalism is showing its ultimate war-mongering face in a one more war-spinning maneuvre, in extending war on Lebanon, to divert the American public money , it’s public budget, and the preparation of "safe situation" for Israel, its threathened politico-military bastion, by Iran’s Ahmadi-Nejad , and eventually for preparation to attack Iran by weakening its allyies Syria and Lebanon’s Hezbollah and other small forces in the M.E. . Iran is one of the bigger prizes , and announced "axis of evil" in this stage of progression towards THE THIRD WORLD WAR , after the redistribution of all former socialist countries and present "rogue" states are finished in the present "permenant-war" political scheems of the US imperialism !
    These war crimes, openly attacking civilian populations, by both side, and attacking U.N. observers in Lebanon and in other circumstances ( as in Iraq-War II ) are once more, clear revelations to all humanity that CAPITALISM = IMPERIALISM = PERMANENT WAR = GENOCIDE & PERMANENT WAR CRIMES and no International laws and Constitutions will be respected or can be respected by socio-economic structure based on CAPITALISM , based on "FREE MARKET" monopoly-capitalism reached in this evolutionary stage of war-imperialistic fiduciary-credit capitalism ( which cannot be "reformed" back in its early stages , because it will be impossible by the complexe military administration-bureaucracy developped and maintaining it thus and driving the whole world towards the brink of a NUCLEAR WORLD WAR ! )
    People’s democracy thus is not possible any-more under any form of capitalist systems , since the LAWS as such are openly violated by all imperialist powers in this final permanent war stage
    ( where all big, small or "neutral" capitalist-imperialist-fiduciary-credit bureaucracys and their globalized system are implied directly or indirectly ! )
    The real Left communist forces must form the FIFTH INTERNATIONAL , if they want to shorten this genocidal and world destruction potential concentrated at the hands of capitalist-imperialistic powers driving peoples and oppressed peoples and nations into a gigantic destructive process hundreds of times greater TRAGEDY than "déjà vu" WWI + WWII + Genocides in Africa, in Latin-America, in Europe, in all over the globe by now very-well known by American-Indians, by Biafrans, by Palestinians, by Armenians, by Jews, by Vietnamies, by Koreans, by Rwandans, by Darfouris, and by all other peoples massacred in the process of their legitimate revolutions in the last 155 years of the world history ! LETS FORM THIS FIFTH INTERNATIONAL if we don’t want to be considered as mere complices of imperialistic destructive wars taking larger spaces and gathering a larger momentum ! Abram

  • AMERICANS ARE UNABLE TO ***** - FOLLOW THE $ MONEY - ******

    THAT IS - AMERICANS CAN’T SEE ***WHO*** TAKES THEIR MONEY AND HOW THEY DO IT.

    WHY FOR INSTANCE WAS THERE NO 9-11 TYPE ATTACK ON PARIS? ON MOSCOW? ON ROME?

    SIMPLE: AS BIN LADEN AND ALL THE OTHER ARAB-WORLD LEADERS HAVE SAID: BECAUSE IT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THAT GIVES ISRAEL THE WEAPONS TO OCCUPY PALESTINE AND CONTROL THE PALESTINIANS BY KILLING THEM. MANY U.S. SCIENTISTS AND ACADEMIC INVESTIGATORS NOW HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT THROUGH CIA AND MOSSAD INFILTRATORS INSTIGATED AND ALLOWED THE ATTACK TO HAPPEN.

    BUT WHEN CONSIDERING THE 9-11 ATTACK - THE ARAB GOVERNMENTS INCLUDING AFGHASTANS DIDN’T KNOW WHO DID IT - BUT THEY KNEW WHY THEY APPROVED OF IT: ISRAEL’S OCCUPATIONS AND MURDERS IN PALESTINE - THAT WERE MADE POSSIBLE BY THE ARMS THE U.S. GAVE ISRAEL.

    ***** ISRAEL IS THE UNITED STATE’S BIGGEST RECEIVER OF AID: 3 BILLION $ PER YEAR !*****

    BUT AMERICANS HAVE BEEN SO INTENSIVELY BRAIN-PROGRAMED BY MEDIA WAVE, HAARP WAVES, RADIO-FREQUENCY WAVES DEVELOPED BY THE U.S. AND ISRAELI GOVERNMENTS - THAT THEY ARE UNABLE TO ****** - FOLLOW THE $ MONEY -*****

    THE WAR IN IRAQ HAS NOW COST THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT [ REALLY THE U.S. TAXPAYERS FOR THE NEXT 3 GENERATIONS TO COME ] 400 **BILLION** DOLLARS ! WELL - OK NO PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD THE IRAQ-WAR WAS FOR THERE ’PROTECTION’ AGAINST "TERRORISTS" ***ACTUALLY IT WAS FOR ISRAEL’S PROTECTION*** :SADAM WAS THE BIGGEST FUNDER OF PALESTINIAN FREEDOM-FIGHTER RESISTANCE. EVERY TIME A SUICIDE-BOMBER LOST HIS LIFE, SADAM TOOK CARE OF HIS FAMILY BY GIVING THEM $25,000 . ISRAEL TOLD THEIR POLITICIANS IN THE U.S. - THAT IRAQ HAD TO BE DESTROYED.

    WELL THAT IS ALL POLITICALLY CORRECT AS FAR AS THE U.S. AND ISRAELI ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTERS ARE CONCERNED. BUT - THE MONEY-TRAIL THAT THE AMERICANS CAN’T FOLLOW IS WHAT REALLY DRIVES *****ALL****** THESE WARS.

    THE U.S. HAS SPENT 400 BILLION $s ON THE IRAQ WAR IN ORDER TO SEIZE THE OIL PROFITS UNDER A PUPPET GOVERNMENT AND PROTECT ISRAEL FROM IRAQ.

    ***BUT IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY REAL DIFFERENCE TO THE U.S. RICH, AND THE U.S. POLITICIANS BACKING THE WAR WHETHER THEY WIN OR NOT ! ! ! ! !!! IT DOEN’T MAKE ANY *REAL* DIFFERENCE TO THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE PUT THE $400 BILLION $s BORROWED TO FUND THE WAR ......****IN THEIR OWN POCKETS***...... BUSH, CHANEY, WOLFOWITZ, ROVE, ROCKEFELLAR ALREADY ****OWN**** THE WAR-SUPPLY COMPANIES THAT HAVE BEEN PAID THE $400 BILLION $s FOR THE IRAQ WAR. THESE FAMILIES ***OWN*** THE WAR COMPANIES THAT ARE MAKING THE $ .... !

    THEY MAKE $ ON THE DEATHS IN THIS IRAQ WAR -.-.-. WIN OR LOSE !!

    THEY OWN THE MONEY-MAKING WAR COMPANIES - WHY SHOULD THEY CARE? THEY MAKE $ .

    THAT 400 BILLION $s WILL HAVE TO BE PAID BACK BY THE ***TAX-PAYERS*** OF FUTURE GENERATIONS OF AMERICANS TO THE INSTITUTIONS AND COUNTRIES THAT THE U.S. NECONS ***BORROWED*** THAT $400 BILLION $s FROM. THE AVERAGE AMERICANS FUTURE HAS BEEN DESTROYED BY BEING MORTAGED TO PAY BACK THE COSTS OF THE IRAQ WAR.

    WELL ****WHERE DID THE $4OO BILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS WAR GO??? **** WHO GOT THAT $4OO BILLION $S ??????

    SIMPLE - BUT UNSEEABLE BY THE AMERICANS. THE $400 BILLION $s WAS PAID TO THE WAR-SUPPLY COMPANIES OWNED BY BUSH, CHANEY, RUMSFELD, PEARLE, KRISTOL, WOLFOWITZ AND ALL THE AMERICAN RICH ! THAT ****$4OO BILLION**** WAS PAID TO LOCKHEED-MARTIN, BOEING, RAYTHEON, U.S. STEEL, FOR PLANES, TANKS AND OTHER WEAPONS, TOO MONSTANTO & DOW CHEMICAL FOR BOMBS, THE NAPALM SUBSITUTE THAT ENDS IN "111" AND FLESH-BURNING WHITE PHOSPHOROUS BOMBS, TOO WEYERHOUSER AND IP LUMBER FOR BARACKS IN IRAQ, TO THE LARGE TEXTILE COMPANIES WHO MAKE THE UNIFORMS, SHOES AND BEDDING, TO BEATRICE FOODS WHO FEED THE MERCENARY TROOPS - AND OF COURSE TO HALIBURTON, BECHTEL AND KELLOG BROWN AND ROUTE WHO OVERSEE ALL THE BUNKER MILITARY BASE AND BARACKS CONSTRUCTION IN IRAQ.

    AND WHO OWNS ALL THOSE COMPANIES, THAT GOT PAID THAT ***$ 400 BILLIONs $ *** ? ? ?

    BUSH, CHANEY, THE BECHTELS, THE PEARLES, THE WOLFOWITZ’S, THE ROCKEFELLERS, THE LOEB’S AND MOST ALL THE SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN IN THE U.S. CONGRESS. THEY GET THE $. THEIR STOCK IN THE COMPANIES GO UP. THEIR DIVIDENDS INCREASE. THEIR STOCK DOUBLES BY STOCK SPLITS DUE TO INCREASE SHARE PRICES.

    ALL THAT WAR $$$ - THAT $400 BILLIONs $ GOES TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS WAR !!!
    THOSE RICH FAMILIES WHO CONTROL THE U.S. AND MADE THE WAR POCKET THE $400 BILLION $.

    WELL THE PEOPLE OF FRANCE WHO WEREN’T BOMBED ON 9-11, AND OF SWEDEN WHO WEREN’T BOMBED ON 9-11, AND OF GERMANY WHO WEREN’T BOMBED ON 9-11 - THE PEOPLE OF
    ****THOSE**** COUNTRIES DON’T HAVE TO PAY $400 BILLION $s IN TAXES FOR THE IRAQ WAR.
    BUT THE PEOPLE OF FRANCE, SWEDEN AND GERMANY STILL GET HEALTH-CARE FOR THEIR TAXES, THE PEOPLE OF FRANCE, SWEDEN AND GERMANY CAN GO TO COLLEGE IN THEIR COUNTRIES - WITHOUT PAYING FROM THEIR PERSONAL ACCOUNTS - AND THEY DON’T HAVE TO PAY *$400 BILLION $s FOR THE IRAQ WAR.

    BUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE BECOME TOO STUPID TO FOLLOW THE $ MONEY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOAD UP ON THEIR CHILDREN THAT $400 BILLION DOLLARS THAT HAVE TO BE PAID TO BUSH’S AND CHANEY’S WAR SUPPLY COMPANIES ... OVER THE NEXT 3 GENERATIONS.

    BUT UNLIKE THE FRENCH AND THE SWEDISH AND THE GERMANS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET .........NOTHING........ THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET A BIG ****NOTHING*** FOR MAKING THEIR CHILDREN PAY FOR THIS IRAQ WAR.

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO GET FREE HEALTH CARE OR FREE HIGHER EDUCATION LIKE THE FRENCH AND THE SWEDES AND THE GERMANS - THE STUPID AMERICAN PEOPLE - WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO FOLLOW THE .....$$ $$$ $$$$ ....... ARE GOING TO GET *NOTHING* FOR PAYING FOR THIS IRAQ WAR.

    EUROPEANS WILL HAVE HEALTH CARE AND HIGHER EDUCATION FUNDED BY THE THEIR TAXES - YET THE IGNORANT AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL PAY BUSH’S LOCKHEED-MARTIN FOR HIS WAR AND GET ZERO BACK FOR THEIR TAXES. ***** THEY WILL PAY FOR GENERATIONS AND GET NOTHING.

    ****THAT IS WHAT YOU NEVER HEAR DISCUSSED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA****

    WRITE ME - BY TITLING A POST TO ME WITH "GUEVARA" IN YOUR TITLE ON THE IRISH ANTI-WAR PAGE AT:::

    http://irishantiwar.org/index.adp

    AND WE WILL GET TOGETHER AND MEET WITH OTHERS WHO REALLY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THESE THINGS WORK.

    WE CAN COMMUNICATE THERE UNTIL WE MAKE CONTACT PERSONALLY. ’Guevara’

  • We like to see the people around the world live in peace.But which peace?
    We like Democracy.But which Democracy?
    No body encourages the terrorism.But the hate toward the others will turn every child to terrorist.
    We have to accept the others, we have to respect the feeling of the each others.No body can force any nation to change its religion or traditions or principles for the sake of Democracy, this is not a Democracy.
    let the people live in peace.Dont kill the children and dont force any body to live out of his skin.
    Then you will get rid of terrorism.
    One question: Suppose any body of you looses his family, what will he be? Terrorist ? Peaceful?
    What do you think?