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Police of a civilised society killed a man...

by Open-Publishing - Friday 22 July 2005
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Police - Repression Attack-Terrorism UK

They killed a man in daylight. Police and security services are main beneficiaries of The ’war on terror’. State and its institutions are frighteningly powerful. They want more powers. They are unaccountable, unchecked and are presentened as ’protectors’. Here is what happened in London on 22 July 2005. Are we living in a civilised society??
The controlled the man or suspect. If had a bomb, why would they sit on the top of him and kill him? if he was unarmed why didn’t they arrested him.

A passenger has told how he saw armed police officers shoot a man dead on a Tube train at Stockwell.
Mark Whitby said: "I was sitting on the train... I heard a load of noise, people saying, ’Get out, get down’.

"I saw an Asian guy. He ran on to the train, he was hotly pursued by three plain clothes officers, one of them was wielding a black handgun.

"He half tripped... they pushed him to the floor and basically unloaded five shots into him," he told BBC News 24.

"As [the suspect] got onto the train I looked at his face, he looked sort of left and right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, a cornered fox.

"He looked absolutely petrified and then he sort of tripped, but they were hotly pursuing him, [they] couldn’t have been any more than two or three feet behind him at this time and he half tripped and was half pushed to the floor and the policeman nearest to me had the black automatic pistol in his left hand.

"He held it down to the guy and unloaded five shots into him

Forum posts

  • good riddance. next?

    • Racist! How do you know that he was guilty? Do you have a direct line to the Almighty, that lets you know who is right and who is wrong? If not, you have no right to decide who should live or die.

      If the man was being held down on the floor, as I understand was the case, he was no danger to anyone. In that case the five bullets were nothing more than murder! Is this the kind of society you want to live in? Be careful of your answer, because next time you might be the man being chased.

    • Sometimes you get the chicken, and sometimes you get the freathers....

  • That’s probably the reason they have postponed the police news conference. They are probably trying to figure out how the hell they are going to explain why they shot a Asian man, subdued by two other police, in the back? They are just buying time to try to see which story the public will accept readily. They don’t even know if he was the right guy or not.

    • Some rumours on the net that witnesses believe he may have been wearing a bomb -belt.
      Bet that’s the official story, but if so why didnt he blow himself up once he was on the platform?
      And why were thugs wearing civvies chasing him;
      Who shouted "stop,Police"? (I think they MUST legally do that)

      Can anyone explain why Al Qaieda sends two lots of ’bombers’ out in the same week, when the first lot failed? Bet the official story is that these guys tried again.
       What planet are they on?
      OK, bombers may not be bright, but i bet even they would think about trying it on again so soon.
      Cui ono? Bushblair that’s who.

  • wear a bomb belt - die!

    if i were a cop trying to arrest a homicide bomber and it made a move towards that trigger switch i would end it’s life before it ended mine. plain and simple.

    • There is a very good possibility that the victim was suffering from some type of mental illness. Having spent twenty years working with mental patients I had great difficult explaining to police officers what were appropriate methods to use. I had some success but alas the martial spirit is just under the surface of many ’well meaning officers’ . Ignorance and fear often produce tragic incidents especially when firearms are available. In Iraq "its shoot first and let god sort them out", according to US rules of engagement. I think the London Police are in a spot of bother over this observed incident. In the US if a black man is shot and no weapon has been found one often magically materialises. The road to hell is always paved with good intentions.

    • we can make up excuses all day long. society is not perfect but it is most certainly "well intended". the road to distruction is paved with excuses for and the equivication of terrorism. i am more inclined to support the actions of those who risk their lives to defend us than to pull the rug out from under them by sugjesting wrong doing based on rumor.

      Dave

  • The London or British police which had a good reputation of being calm, friendly and efficient seems to go berserk.
    In the U.S.A. a free country be beware of the police, because this men in black can commit any crime and it will be justified as a necessary action by only court. Period.
    Never call the police if your house was broken in, more burglaries will occur! The shoot and ask later policy leads later to false accusation and rigged evidence, which means the police will plant drug and guns in your house or car.

    The judical system in the USA is uncivilized.

    We had a joke about the none existing crime during the reign of Adolf Hitler: The criminals are all employed by the government.

    • if you’re not careful you might spend you entire life in that cynical and suspicious funk of yours.

    • Well Dave continue to follow this story and I bet the chances of the victim being mentally impaired has risen substantially in view of the police actions and the continuing changing stories of the authorities...its unfortunate that there were witnesses...john

    • Well Dave, we can like you to repeat every lie they hear on the nightly bull shit called news, we have the judicial system to back it up without question. People in the U.S.A. wouldn’t know the truth if they heard it. And we haven’t heard it yet.

    • We can continue to make excuses for the government and the police all day long....and people like you do.

    • in the middle of a quadruple homicide bomber attack which was a follow-up attack to another one only two weeks previous, a british emergency response team had the following encounter with an individual who was extremely suspicious for several reasons.


      The man who died and who has been described of South American appearance, had emerged from a house that was under surveillance because of a suspected link to Thursday’s attempted bomb attacks on three Tube trains and a bus.

      He was followed by a surveillance team as he caught a bus to Stockwell Tube station where police told him to stop. According to witnesses, he tried to get on a train when he was shot five times in the head by an officer.

       Deccan Herald - Sunday, July 24, 2005 (Wrong man was shot: Scotland Yard)


      The man was shot Friday at a subway station in the South London neighbourhood Stockwell. Witnesses said the man appeared to be South Asian and was wearing a heavy padded coat when police chased him into a subway car, pinned him to the ground and shot him in the head and torso.

       CBC News Sunday, July 24, 2005 (London police identify man they shot dead on subway as Brazilian)


      now, clearly this person needed to be stopped. come on man! he was wearing a heavy coat in the middle of july on the way to a train station during the pandemonium of a multi-pronged terrorist attack for which the main mo is bombing train stations. he was observed departing a building that was already being watched for suspected links to terrorism, was followed for obvious reasons, and failed to comply when ordered to stop by police who were trying to prevent more death and destruction.

      the hard core method of shooting homicide bombers in the head is used to avoid any explosives that might be strapped to the guy and to disable him in an extremely expeditious manner.

      as to wether he was a homicide bomber or a mentaly ill man or a smart-ass who didn’t feel like obeying the orders of police during a serious and chaotic crisis, it is very obvious to me that he errored grievously.